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Todd Bentley: Violent "Different" Spirit

This man with all these tattoos ain't no telling what kinda messages he has in those tats. What I am amazed (well not really) yet astounding to see all those people who were drawn to this man in Lakeland, Fla as if he was truly sent by the Most High with powers of healing.

Although I am not a christian anylonger; this is not to pick on Christianity because we in the Hebrew Israelite culture has these demons as well. Take a look below. After hearing these habitation of devils many people are turned away and think we are in a cult. I must warn you that these brothas use vulgar language.

YouTube - GMS: The False Prophets Among Israel
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Re: False Prophets

Might I also add that as Todd Bentley does not represent Christianity as a whole. Neither does these brothas in our Hebrew Culture this is not what we represent or stand for at all.
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Re: False Prophets

in addition for those of you who are interested in knowing what the Israelite culture is about this is it in a nutshell.

1. We keep the commandants/laws/statues of the Most high Yah.
(Exodus Chapter 20 - We observe the ten commandmants in that we keep the Sabbath ( Saturday worship) not Sunday.

We do not believe that the law was done away with. Matthew 5:17-21 Yahoshua - his tru hebrew name not Zues aka Jesus (greek god) even kept the law. He is and was our example so we follow him. He came to show us the way.

2. We keep the dietary laws in Leviticus chapter 11 - We eat only clean meats. Seafood are considered unclean (they are the scavengers of the sea - they clean it up) so we abstain.

3. We keep the Feast/Holy Days Leviticus Chapter 23. We do not celebrate pagan holidays.

4. We know who we are as the Chosen People of the Most high Yah. The so-called negro; black or African american are the descendants of the biblical Israelite. Not those Ahskenzie Jews.

Further evidence in Duet Chapter 28. The curses placed upon us because of our forefathers disobedience and so much more. I have said enough.
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Re: False Prophets

I never think about or talk about false prophets simply because when it comes to the word of God, I never focus on the messenger, but rather on the message. Maybe thats why I don't try to look for every "impaired" word or action of a person of any religion (Christian or otherwise), to point a finger at the religion itself. People are people.
I believe that a genuine man of God can as easily impart misleading, self-serving "gospel" as easily as a deceptive con-man can utter the true prophesy.
The Bible already declared that "Many will come in my name"....
Thats why I don't pledge allegance to any pastors. The Bible holds the key.
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False Prophet is not an indication of False Religion.
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This man with all these tattoos ain't no telling what kinda messages he has in those tats. What I am amazed (well not really) yet astounding to see all those people who were drawn to this man in Lakeland, Fla as if he was truly sent by the Most High with powers of healing.

Although I am not a christian anylonger; this is not to pick on Christianity because we in the Hebrew Israelite culture has these demons as well. Take a look below. After hearing these habitation of devils many people are turned away and think we are in a cult. I must warn you that these brothas use vulgar language.


I truly don't believe by having a tattoo signifies ones current beliefs. I personally can't see what his tattoos are of, but that is a generalization that is sorta unwarranted when it comes to ones "at present" faith.

As for healing... God will work through anyone he pleases. It doesn't matter what they look like, how they speak, nor what their past was like.

With that said, I can't say if he is a prophet or not. I am not aware of his personal intent. If he speaks of evil and against Christ's teachings, then yes... he is a false prophet IMO.

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall
know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth
good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A
good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a
corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that
bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
Matthew 7:15-20, KJV
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... God will work through anyone he pleases. It doesn't matter what they look like, how they speak, nor what their past was like.
KJV
Somehow this has a resonating effect on me.

I like it.
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I never think about or talk about false prophets simply because when it comes to the word of God, I never focus on the messenger, but rather on the message. Maybe thats why I don't try to look for every "impaired" word or action of a person of any religion (Christian or otherwise), to point a finger at the religion itself. People are people.
I believe that a genuine man of God can as easily impart misleading, self-serving "gospel" as easily as a deceptive con-man can utter the true prophesy.
The Bible already declared that "Many will come in my name"....
Thats why I don't pledge allegance to any pastors. The Bible holds the key.
I agree like I posted that black/man woman relationship thread by that muslim sistah although she is a muslim and I dont adhere to her beliefs I looked passed that; she still in my opinion spoke the truth. No argument there.

Amein to that me either.

Thanks for your contribution Alex. It is much appreciated.
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I never think about or talk about false prophets simply because when it comes to the word of God, I never focus on the messenger, but rather on the message. Maybe thats why I don't try to look for every "impaired" word or action of a person of any religion (Christian or otherwise), to point a finger at the religion itself. People are people.
I believe that a genuine man of God can as easily impart misleading, self-serving "gospel" as easily as a deceptive con-man can utter the true prophesy.
The Bible already declared that "Many will come in my name"....
Thats why I don't pledge allegance to any pastors. The Bible holds the key.

True to that!!! The living word!!!

Hmmmm.... this brings up what a prophet truly is. As we know Christ is a prophet, is it then actually possible for another to be a profit considering that they are capable of sin. I mean, we could all have great intentions, but we are not perfect and will sin. Evil likes to come and go with all.

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Somehow this has a resonating effect on me.

I like it.


It reminds me of how deeply passionate Christ was for all... a passion that we are not capable of fully understanding.
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I post this not only because of his tattoos. I posted this as an observation and as a discussion to see what others think. Even some Christians know that there is something about this man that is not right and refuse to follow him. His delivery message was not of the spirit of most high. The Holy spirit is not with this man just like I pointed out about the devils in our way of life. Yet I am not surprised in the least.
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I truly don't believe by having a tattoo signifies ones current beliefs. I personally can't see what his tattoos are of, but that is a generalization that is sorta unwarranted when it comes to ones "at present" faith.

As for healing... God will work through anyone he pleases. It doesn't matter what they look like, how they speak, nor what their past was like.

With that said, I can't say if he is a prophet or not. I am not aware of his personal intent. If he speaks of evil and against Christ's teachings, then yes... he is a false prophet IMO.

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall
know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth
good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A
good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a
corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that
bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
Matthew 7:15-20, KJV
Thank you Ja for your response. How are you today?
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I post this not only because of his tattoos. I posted this as an observation and as a discussion to see what others think. Even some Christians know that there is something about this man that is not right and refuse to follow him. His delivery message was not of the spirit of most high. The Holy spirit is not with this man just like I pointed out about the devils in our way of life. Yet I am not surprised in the least.
I didn't take the time to listen to what he has said in that video (a bit too busy at work), but if you would... would you summarize what he is preaching if it is not of God??

What his message actually says and is about??
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I post this not only because of his tattoos. I posted this as an observation and as a discussion to see what others think. Even some Christians know that there is something about this man that is not right and refuse to follow him. His delivery message was not of the spirit of most high. The Holy spirit is not with this man just like I pointed out about the devils in our way of life. Yet I am not surprised in the least.
And that's my point exactly.
Follow NO MAN. Follow the word of God as portrayed in the passages of the Good book.




If you are ever at a point of trying to figure out it the words or actions of any professed religious person OF ANY FAITH, is worth heeding, ask yourself this question...

Does his/her words or actions "appear" to glorify God?
If the answer is NO....
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Thank you Ja for your response. How are you today?

You're most welcome. I always can find a sec to squeeze in talk when it relates to God!

I'm busy like usual ... about to head off to another meeting.
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