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Old 09-15-2008, 06:03 PM
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Re: Dealing with Lust

You must first assume that there is an indulgence in the absurdities surrounding temptation!
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:05 PM
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I am in love with a beautiful woman that fulfills every desire, do you suppose temptation is of any consequence?
I envision life where every mind is nurtured to it's fullest potential of wealth beyond any monetary assessment of worth, where would I begin to search for temptation?
I love every expression of myself, I am on the path to becoming full....... Why would I find temptation from something external from that expression, becoming something I am not?
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:10 PM
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Re: Dealing with Lust

you didn't answer the question directly... ur play on words doesn't help this discussion..
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:21 PM
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does temptation take ur mind away from God into a diff place?
If I were to indulge the question....... No it does not!

What we can learn from temptation is that we deny ourselves from becoming who we truly are.
We deny ourselves from loving in a way that fills us.
We deny the expression of ourselves in our assessment of worth.
We deny being free by not realizing our own wealth in expression.
The brilliance of life and all it's lessons (focal realization of self) remains, that cannot be denied; the only thing we deny is ourselves when we fail to realize it.
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Re: Dealing with Lust

God asks that we commit to "his" rules and guidelines, but isn't intelligent enough to simply explain what we deny within self?

Hint, God doesn't have to, if one is willing to search, life is perfectly brilliant enough to show you!
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:32 PM
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The problem is that people choose to project such failures upon an evil force separate from God or themselves.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:35 PM
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Re: Dealing with Lust

how doesn't temptation take ur mind away from God? rather then meditating on the lord ur mind is after a desire to please the physical self... u can call it 'being in love' with a woman or whatever.. but the fact remains that ur mind is not focussed on the lord, but rather a woman...

people get desire to kill... to torture... to steal.. to cheat... etc.. etc... so does that mean its okay for them to live out their desires/temptations? and how can one be focussed on God while committing such acts?

ur argument is flawed because your aim is to please urself... by pursuing ur own personal temptations how can u please God? I doubt your mind is still focussing on the Lord when ur engaging in satisfying your temptations..
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Social stratification of class surrounding monetary worth is what creates greed when someone has something when another has nothing.
Rather than to explain equality where every desire is fulfilled left with nothing to distinguish one man from another but the individual wealth of expression; we indulge in material worth saying one must submit to the rules of temptation...... Temptation exists simply because there is a social imbalance in our accepted value system of worth.
Just as the individual growth of expression of love in a relationship needs to find balance, so must the collective expression of humanity.
Satan is the reflection of ego, holding on to an incomplete expression and denial of self.... Nothing more!
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Re: Dealing with Lust

i dunno if i'm illiterate or what.. but i understand very little of what you write...

do u try to confuse people to agreeing with you? either that or its because you don't properly explain what you write...
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how doesn't temptation take ur mind away from God? rather then meditating on the lord ur mind is after a desire to please the physical self... u can call it 'being in love' with a woman or whatever.. but the fact remains that ur mind is not focussed on the lord, but rather a woman...

people get desire to kill... to torture... to steal.. to cheat... etc.. etc... so does that mean its okay for them to live out their desires/temptations? and how can one be focussed on God while committing such acts?

ur argument is flawed because your aim is to please urself... by pursuing ur own personal temptations how can u please God? I doubt your mind is still focussing on the Lord when ur engaging in satisfying your temptations..
Perhaps you could explain what these personal temptations are of mine?
If I desired physical pleasure, what do I need with love from a single woman?
I'm a charming man that is pursued by women all the time, if it was about physical pleasure I'd have a different woman every night, nuh?
The brilliance of life is that we desire the emotional aspect of nurturing that comes from love that physical pleasure can never fulfill.
Project absurdities upon me all you like, I have no need to indulge in those social failures.
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If God created us perfect, can we deny that perfection or are we simply denying ourselves of realizing it?
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Re: Dealing with Lust

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I will answer any applicable question you ask, perhaps you should test yourself by answering mine...... One? Two? Give it a try!
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Re: Dealing with Lust

i will glady answer your questions... but i'll do so when i have proper time to word them and say what i fully believe.. i'll get back to u later today or tomorrow..

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Re: Dealing with Lust

I am told I must accept Jesus as my saviour..... I am told everything in life is a result of Karmic debt...... I am told our saviour is yet to come..... I am told aliens came down and created us.........

I laugh because I am told I must accept these ways of thinking, faith in absurd beliefs.....
I laugh when I am told I deny God when I don't follow "his" commandment because I know life is brilliant and it is impossible to deny God.
The bible explains that God created us with the ability to deny him, and I laugh because it isn't true.....
The example of temptation is perfect, when we indulge in it, we deny a love that fills every desire where we stop seeing what we can consume from it, and realize what we can give to it..... A love no longer filled with needs or desire!
The brilliance of life is that it doesn't matter what arrogance in belief we adhere to, the brilliance in fulfillment or denial of self remains.... A brilliance that is impossible to deny!
Why do we deny all these different beliefs arguing which one is true and which one is false? Because we can!
A brilliant God might have created this denial for a reason rather than to create us to deny "him".
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