The idea of a spiritual path is to merge the personal self with the divine.

When this has been experienced, the very idea of possession loses it's meaning.

There isn't anything that is not you already.

The human self is still plugged into it's life here, but is now free or near free of personal desire.

Life is no longer devoted to the "self". The things that once made you run upon a treadmill for personal gain have lost their sparkle. The lusts of wealth and power and sex have fallen away.

As you now see creation as a part of your own body, you will see to it's health and well being. The idea of possession never occurs after that point.

But as long as you identify with your human self, lust is a natural part of your world. It is not to be condemned, just understood. Kept in proper perspective, it's your x-ray glasses upon everyone you meet.

Have fun, but keep it on a leash.

Lust has teeth.


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Destroyer Of Worlds

Are you a Buddhist Xexon?

I own the streets

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I follow no religion, but are familar with most of them.

I celebrate the common things rather than the differences.

I've made other postings in this forum as to what I am.



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Lust is predominantly a physical thing, in my view, so this thought that others may feel 'we are all one anyway' gives me the heebie-jeebies
Actually, even on a spiritual plane, I'm not going along with the idea that my soul (for want of a better word) is in anyway connected with the souls of abusers and warmongers...
I don't WANT to be one with the divine, or all humanity
Cos that would 'undo' ME....

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The thing about being in the rat race is, that, even if you win, you're still a rat....

An example: a friend, back in my college teaching days, had a sexual relationship with a student
neither student nor teacher was a minor
no administrative action was taken, no charges filed...yet, I saw a disintegration of the faculty member's 'standing', and the student was teased unmercifully...the cost was loss of respect and 'validity' in terms of grade given, or grades earned...had the student REALLY earned a B+? WAS the faculty member awarding an A for extracurricular acts?
lol
I've also seen where a contractor has performed a job poorly, cos the lust for $$ is driving them outside of their area of competence...
Myriad other examples, but the lust for sex/drugs/money/fame can lead people to sacrifice the love and trust of those close to them, or their standing in their community...

And when I lust after a piece of art, I ask myself, can I make my mortgage next month if I give in to this desire...
Costs vary according to the lust involved, respect/trust/money/jailtime

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The thing about being in the rat race is, that, even if you win, you're still a rat....

By any means, reason and logic are great tools of freedom.

True that...............

I am lusting after a guy that i work with he has been soooo flirtacuious since we are back at school....it is sooooo tempting...today he was saying some things that just made me weak.....*sigh* but I resisted any and all temptation....

Naw, you yielded. You're having dirty thoughts about him even now.

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"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake." - Matthew 5 v11 KJV

Very waggish indeed.

LOLOLOL well I wasn't until you said that..thank you very much....LOL

I suppose its true...the thoughts were there today, but I pushed them away...and more importantly I did not act on them...which is progress for me...

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I find it interesting that one of my posts was dissected into tiny fragments and responded too with statements, yet when I ask a simple question in response to such statements there is zero response.
Isn't it interesting when statements fail against simple question?
It's as if the Christian belief provides resignation to belief alone without question..... Why were we then created with the ability to question if it only fails us?
Foolish? YES!
BTW, I would only find pleasure in answering such questions.... No need or desire to shy away!

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What is there to deny but self?

Since it seems I can't find anyone worthy of arguing these points, I will expound upon them myself....
Why is temptation present?
Did God provide us with temptation or was it beyond God being provided by Satan?
We have a problem with the idea of an omniscient God if temptation is beyond "him", being created by Satan. In other words, God having created all things with absolute knowledge would have also known "he" created an angel that would fall from "his" grace and as a result provide temptation to man.
Being an all powerful (omnipotent) and all knowing God (omniscient), it is impossible for anything to be beyond "his" design.
Seeing as God provided us with temptation being all knowing and all powerful, being able to foresee and quash temptation before it ever came forth; what is the purpose of it's existence in "his" brilliant design?
Did God intend for us to be tempted and fight it, without the ability to overcome it?
Is God unable to overcome temptation?
Does God ask that we commit to a love where temptation exists because "he" is either unable to show us how to obtain such a pure love free from temptation, or created us without such ability?
If God could provide the mind with the knowledge of love free from temptation, there would be no point to providing guidelines or rules found in all the examples of "thou shalt not".......
We can say that God is free from temptation, yet succumb to the idiotic notion that temptation has dictated the rules and guidelines that God has set forth as "his" word..... In other words, God is Satan's B***h.... essentially Satan is making him bark like a dog! That foolish God again!

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What is there to deny but self?

The bible is filled with a wealth of beauty in expression as well as many absurd contradictions in absolutes.
What we must all begin to realize is that we all contain this beauty of free expression, never to be contradicted by making it into the absolute word of God and/or path to spiritual enlightenment.

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What is there to deny but self?

Learn with me and become a teacher of life knowing that this ignorance nurtured within you, should have never been your own.

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What is there to deny but self?

does temptation take ur mind away from God into a diff place?

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