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Old 07-18-2008, 03:09 PM
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Re: Dealing with Lust

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disclaimer: lust and sexual desire are NOT the same thing...

therefore lust and love do not go hand in hand...

Hey yall..mi confused..so is it ok to fallin luv 1st..then lust 2nd..or is lusting simply bad all togedda??Mi don't think mi lust for anyone atall..mi neva really thot about it i guess til now??
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Re: Dealing with Lust

lust is just excessive sexual desire... think about all the vices.. they're all something that are in excess... for example... having desire for money is not bad, because we need to live in this world, shelter, feed and clothe our family etc... but a person who is constantly obsessed about making money and having more and more money is a person with Greed... thats excessive desire...

there's nothing wrong with being in love with someone (in my opinion), but having lust is not good... sexual desire WILL be there in a relationship, but having excessive sexual desire (lust) where a person is thinkin only bout sex, is not good...
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Re: Dealing with Lust

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lust is just excessive sexual desire... think about all the vices.. they're all something that are in excess... for example... having desire for money is not bad, because we need to live in this world, shelter, feed and clothe our family etc... but a person who is constantly obsessed about making money and having more and more money is a person with Greed... thats excessive desire...

there's nothing wrong with being in love with someone (in my opinion), but having lust is not good... sexual desire WILL be there in a relationship, but having excessive sexual desire (lust) where a person is thinkin only bout sex, is not good...

K, me seeet more now, thx
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Re: Dealing with Lust

We all have our individual interpretation of many things, Love, Hate, Lust and there in lies the problem, in relation to things being confussing. One person will have one view, another something else. For me the Bible is a road map that I try to, but do not always understand and use as a guide. However I am also guided by my own personal choices based on the values that I set for myself. Some things are clear cut in my mind others for a variety of reasons are not so clear, so I live sometimes knowing that I am making the right choices, mostly hoping that I am, and sometimes knowing that I am not, whilst aspiring to do better.
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lust is just excessive sexual desire... think about all the vices.. they're all something that are in excess... for example... having desire for money is not bad, because we need to live in this world, shelter, feed and clothe our family etc... but a person who is constantly obsessed about making money and having more and more money is a person with Greed... thats excessive desire...

there's nothing wrong with being in love with someone (in my opinion), but having lust is not good... sexual desire WILL be there in a relationship, but having excessive sexual desire (lust) where a person is thinkin only bout sex, is not good...
After reading this i googled lust and agree with what your saying. its funny how we can think we know what common words in the english language mean. i can apply this to my life and realise that i DO have a problem with lust cos i excessively crave sex even when im getting it. if someone hasnt been in the mood when i am and i have to lie next to them and not be able to get my wicked way it tears me apart and makes me wanna cry. so now comes the question how the hell can you curtail lust?

lust (lst)
n. 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving.
2. a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power.
b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

3. Obsolete Pleasure; relish.

intr.v. lust·ed, lust·ing, lusts To have an intense or obsessive desire, especially one that is sexual
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Re: Dealing with Lust

By understanding that this world is not as real as you think it is.

It's a cheap copy of the real thing.

Once you understand this, the attractions of this world will fall away as you mature in this understanding.

In order to get away from this tarbaby, you must let go first.



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Re: Dealing with Lust

lust is just sexual energy... if u learn yoga they'll teach u about the 'chakkras'... and how to divert this 'energy' that you have.... i think i've said before that horniness is just energy, and the key is using this energy in more effective ways and diverting it to something productive...
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H.S. my dear, i do yoga, i meditate and use crystals to balance my chakras - and im STILL godamn horny all the time. i go to the gym to get rid of pent up energy and then the rhythmic motion of the rowing machine gets me horny blah blah. maybe some people just biologically have different sex drives?
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its all in the mind... conquer ur mind, and u'll conquer the world perhaps try meditation..
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LOL my minds cool, its my sex drive i need to conquer
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My personal opinion as far as lust is concerned, it appears to me to be an intensely selfish feeling and act. It is taking and not giving, in whatever scenario, be it sexual or not. In regard to the sexual context of it, lusting for your, boyfriend, husband or whatever is not what one should experience if Loving that person is what you claim. Your passion and love for that individual, should make everything beautiful not lusting for…. as people have stated in prior posts, again just my opinion. Unfortunately many of us have been poorly programmed by life's events, and personal experiences. If those experiences are distorted, such as lust our ability to comprehend spiritual truths can be off center. This I think is where an individual becomes defensive or will try to justify their lustful feelings, and the reasoning of another unlustful person will have a negative impact because this happens to be their circumstance that they are in at that particular time. As it has been said and which I agree with, our programming of Life has been poor. Passion and Love continue to grow and flourish. So in essence how would one control Lust? Well it is said that, it is a natural law that anything not fed will die. And whatever you have drawn to your breast is what is growing in your life. First, it hears your heartbeat. Second, it is warmed by your closeness. And third, it draws nourishment from you. This so true!

The caution here is to be careful of what you nurture, be sure you are nurturing what you want to grow and starving what you want to die.
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nice post sun...

and very true in my case...

I can not say that I do not feel the urges of lust anymore... but I can say that when I do feel the urges I pray about it and meditate and that hungry feeling goes away... and the longer I have shyed away from those urges the easier it has become to control them and focus on more productive ways to channel my passions.
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My hardest thing to deal with as a christian woman is Lust... and I do not mean always in a sexual sense...

How do you as christians deal with Lust? On a day to day basis... what do you do when the devil throws temptation at your feet... like a buffet of candy in front of a child...

How do you work yourself through it and keep moving forward on the divine path God has chosen for you?
I find this not so difficult now... the longer I pray on this and find positive outlets for my passions... the less lust I feel...
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My hardest thing to deal with as a christian woman is Lust... and I do not mean always in a sexual sense...

How do you as christians deal with Lust? On a day to day basis... what do you do when the devil throws temptation at your feet... like a buffet of candy in front of a child...

How do you work yourself through it and keep moving forward on the divine path God has chosen for you?
I think most of us know right from wrong. You have to always do the next right thing. Easier said then done sometimes.
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Christianity doesn't say "no" to sex. It says "no" to sex outside of marriage. There are logical reasons for that stance. It's not just an arbitrary pronouncement. Everything has it's proper time and place. Christian doctrine just prescribes what that context should be for sex so that people can avoid the negative consequences of inappropriate behaviour.

As for dealing with lust, treat it like any other bad habit. Pray for strength to resist temptation, avoid sources of temptation as much as you can, and fill your thoughts with pure, wholesome things. The more you focus on God, the less capacity you have to focus on things that are negative. So just keep your focus on God - He will take care of the rest.
If you love someone, you desire nothing sexual from another.
I might look at another woman in appreciation for the way she carries herself like I would a piece of art, but the woman I love is my masterpiece.
God seems to think we are idiots giving an instruction booklet towards something that needs to be discovered for self.
Lusting after another is something that is lacking within self, the action of lust is a perfection that drives us towards the understanding of this. Love is something that fills us, it runs over in abundance until there is no longer desire for anything more. Lust is a childish endeavor in the feeble attempt to fill such a void.
Christianity is a foolish religion where the authors understood the jealousy that was present when eyes wandered, especially in a time when women were objects given to men. These laws were created to control, not to liberate. If I were with a woman who looked beyond me to be fulfilled, I am intelligent enough to understand this is not love and would only desire her to go seek what it is she needs to find. Why would I ever want her to stay with me because of some stupid religious doctrine? I want her to be with me because nothing can keep us apart. With this very simple realization, the entire bible and it's foolish instruction becomes a very moot point making God a complete moron for having left such instruction. God couldn't simply explain what the truth of love is and how it fulfills us?
The people with even the tiniest bit of sense understand that these flaws exist because the authors were simply men concerning the temporal aspect in the subjugation of women.
The marriage ceremony and it's promises are the very reason why so many marriages fail; people are not seeking that which is true, but doing what they think is expected of them.
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