Jamaica Online at Everything Jamaican!

Go Back   Jamaica Talk - Jamaican Forums > Jamaica Travel & Tourism > Moving To Jamaica
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-21-2009, 03:45 PM
BlaqBritish's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London ... for now!
Posts: 179
BlaqBritish nah do too bad.
Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Odd question maybe, but im just wondering.

I really hate to hear those who obviously dont come from JA speaking patwa because it just doesnt sound right to me. Born in the UK, i often cringe with embarrassment when i hear it and its so blatant that it does not come naturally to the person!!!

Anyway, i know first hand people assume i have money there because of my accent, so even though i often look the part (apparently im a 'yardie @ heart' lol ), i wouldnt feel comfortable taking on a language that doesnt come naturally to me.

I havent had any problems with people understanding me so far but if i was there for a long period of time would i need 'fi start chat to people suh?' LOL.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-21-2009, 03:47 PM
Alex4Ja's Avatar
-
ETJ Expert
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Merca, Farrin
Posts: 16,644
Alex4Ja a gwaan wid tings.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaqBritish View Post
Odd question maybe, but im just wondering.

I really hate to hear those who obviously dont come from JA speaking patwa because it just doesnt sound right to me. Born in the UK, i often cringe with embarrassment when i hear it and its so blatant that it does not come naturally to the person!!!

Anyway, i know first hand people assume i have money there because of my accent, so even though i often look the part (apparently im a 'yardie @ heart' lol ), i wouldnt feel comfortable taking on a language that doesnt come naturally to me.

I havent had any problems with people understanding me so far but if i was there for a long period of time would i need 'fi start chat to people suh?' LOL.
The official language of Jamaica is English.
You will be fine in terms of communicating with locals.
__________________
True loves comes quietly without fanfare or flashing lights. If you hear bells, go get your ears checked.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-21-2009, 03:51 PM
BlaqBritish's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London ... for now!
Posts: 179
BlaqBritish nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Ok, but im thinking when im paying for particular services like hair, nails, markets where there are no set prices ... all the locals might hear is 'CHI CHING' ! lol

Well it will be the longest i would have been in KGN for this year so i guess i'll see.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-21-2009, 04:04 PM
NativeIslandGal's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Bellevile Ontario
Posts: 12
NativeIslandGal nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

I find that people just seem to know the difference of when you are new to the island, or know your grounds.
Depends where you go as well, and who you travel with.

Check around with your girlfriends from around there and get an approximate price they pay.

I paid 1300 to get my Nails done in Ochi.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-21-2009, 04:12 PM
BlaqBritish's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London ... for now!
Posts: 179
BlaqBritish nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Yeh i always check with like my sis in law and others how much they pay. Atleast then i get an idea. I found the girl to do my nails, jus hope she aint left the island yet!

I just feel more comfortable knowing the prices, yet still being able to talk the im used to so not to get the 'tourist' price.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-22-2009, 01:03 AM
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jamaica
Posts: 72
LuvLife nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaqBritish View Post
Ok, but im thinking when im paying for particular services like hair, nails, markets where there are no set prices ... all the locals might hear is 'CHI CHING' ! lol

Well it will be the longest i would have been in KGN for this year so i guess i'll see.
The truth is some of my fellow countrymen WILL see dollar signs when they hear an accent. It's a fact here that there are SOME merchants / higglers who WILL play on the fact that a visitor is ignorant of correct prices. The safest bet to protect yourself would be to travel with a local relative or friend.

Sadly, some 'hungy-belly' yardies can't comprehend that a foreign accent doesn't mean wealth.

Hope my two bits helps.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-22-2009, 01:56 AM
windypace's Avatar
A Passionate Opinion
ETJ Expert
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Livingston Texas
Posts: 16,060
windypace a gwaan wid tings.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Necessary to communicate... NO... but it sure is lovely to listen to.
__________________
"All around the world, we are gazing skyward, waiting for God... never realizing that God is waiting for us."

Design your own reality.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-22-2009, 12:27 PM
BlaqBritish's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London ... for now!
Posts: 179
BlaqBritish nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvLife View Post
The truth is some of my fellow countrymen WILL see dollar signs when they hear an accent. It's a fact here that there are SOME merchants / higglers who WILL play on the fact that a visitor is ignorant of correct prices. The safest bet to protect yourself would be to travel with a local relative or friend.

Sadly, some 'hungy-belly' yardies can't comprehend that a foreign accent doesn't mean wealth.

Hope my two bits helps.
I usually do that, but in the long run when im visiting regularly and for long periods of time i dont always want to have a 'local' accompany me to do everyday things. I think the best i can do is make sure i have a fair idea of prices for things im after ...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-11-2009, 07:03 PM
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 196
chelby nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

i pay 800 to get my nails done in habour view

IMO and from my experience accents warrant different treatment in tourist places...

kingston is a bit more of a melting pot and for the most part people just go about their business... i've never personally had anyone adjust prices or treatment b/c i'm not jamaican... i'm sure it could happen, but i haven't experienced it, so i can say with some comfort that it's not the norm... as mentioned, just know what the going rates are and don't be shy...

i prefer town over say ochi or negril because there is less of the "tourist hustle"

not really related story that makes me chuckle... was with my kids in island grill in new kgn one day... this group of tourists walk in (speaking another language), they'd obviously been enjoying the beach as they were all still in beach wear (gals with bikini top and short shorts)... well this may go over just fine in Negril or Ochi or even mobay, but NOT in kingston... the first lady who saw them cursed them so bad that i had to remove my children (even tho they likely had no idea what was being said, bless their canadian souls, kids still repeat things too easily!)... ahhhh yup, things are different in kingston..
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 11-12-2009, 05:08 AM
BlaqBritish's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London ... for now!
Posts: 179
BlaqBritish nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Yup i jus prefer the vibe in town over anywhere else ... but according to some views i shouldnt feel that way being a tourist myself
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 11-20-2009, 02:35 PM
Registered User
ETJ Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 44
Karst nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by chelby View Post
not really related story that makes me chuckle... was with my kids in island grill in new kgn one day...
The one in the Sovereign Shopping Centre
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 11-20-2009, 04:48 PM
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 196
chelby nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karst View Post
The one in the Sovereign Shopping Centre
nah... the one on knutsford beside the burger king... if they went in sovereign dressed like that i think I'D cuss them too...

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 11-20-2009, 06:42 PM
windypace's Avatar
A Passionate Opinion
ETJ Expert
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Livingston Texas
Posts: 16,060
windypace a gwaan wid tings.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

I think someone trying to hustle you is just part of the experience... don't you? I haven't been to another country yet where they didn't try to hustle me... I call it "bartering"...
__________________
"All around the world, we are gazing skyward, waiting for God... never realizing that God is waiting for us."

Design your own reality.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 11-21-2009, 08:46 AM
BlaqBritish's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London ... for now!
Posts: 179
BlaqBritish nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by windypace View Post
I think someone trying to hustle you is just part of the experience... don't you? I haven't been to another country yet where they didn't try to hustle me... I call it "bartering"...
Yeh true but it wouldnt just be someone it appears that accent=chi ching with alot of people there.

I know they hike up prices coming upto and throughout the xmas period so i guess everyone will be paying the price literally.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 11-21-2009, 08:48 AM
BlaqBritish's Avatar
Registered User
ETJ Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London ... for now!
Posts: 179
BlaqBritish nah do too bad.
Re: Patwa ... is it necessary to really communicate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by windypace View Post
Necessary to communicate... NO... but it sure is lovely to listen to.
Hmm depending on what they're saying tho lol.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how do you say happy birthday in Patwa lcmadden Newbies & Guests 14 08-20-2009 02:26 PM
Chat Patwa ongle.... JASpice Speak Jamaican 182 02-10-2009 07:11 PM
patwa word? evian721 Speak Jamaican 10 10-21-2008 02:29 PM
West Indies selectors to communicate better with players Jamaica News Jamaica Sports News 0 09-24-2008 08:40 AM
Really BAD Patwa JamCan Speak Jamaican 28 05-16-2006 01:00 AM


Website Design & Development by Ducani Media Group
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright EverythingJamaican, LLC.