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Old 01-12-2006, 07:30 PM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

Have returning residents to Jamaica been targetted for crime? Yes, over the years, there have been cases of returning residents becoming victims of crime. Recently some organized criminals who targetted returning residents have been arrested and their activities disrupted.

See this article.

Read this article too.

The second article gives some figures on the number of reported criminal incidents involving returning residents.

As to whether Jamaica is hopeless, I don't think so. Yes there's crime, but there's crime everywhere. Every country has negative things going on there. The majority of returning residents to Jamaica manage to settle in ok, and make positive contributions.

Coming back home after being away for a long time can be rough. Culture shock hits some people hard. They get used to things running one way outside of Jamaica, and find it challenging when things don't quite work the way they are used to in Jamaica. Heck, after going away for 1 week, I get a bit phased when I get back home and experience Jamrock in all its glory. (Nuttin' bun mi worse dan using real high speed Internet ova foreign, den coming back to dialup or 128K ADSL ova yah so - cross! )

The mistake some returning residents make, is not keeping the link with home, and losing touch with what's going on here. If you keep in the loop, it's easier for you to know what and where the risks are and how things are really running, so that you can better protect yourself and make your transition smoother.

Very few things in life are easy. Plenty of the good things come with challenges. Many people don't let crime or inconvenience deter them from coming home and contributing positively to the island. It can be done. It just takes careful thought and planning.
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:16 PM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

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Have returning residents to Jamaica been targetted for crime? Yes, over the years, there have been cases of returning residents becoming victims of crime. Recently some organized criminals who targetted returning residents have been arrested and their activities disrupted.

See this article.

Read this article too.

The second article gives some figures on the number of reported criminal incidents involving returning residents.

As to whether Jamaica is hopeless, I don't think so. Yes there's crime, but there's crime everywhere. Every country has negative things going on there. The majority of returning residents to Jamaica manage to settle in ok, and make positive contributions.

Coming back home after being away for a long time can be rough. Culture shock hits some people hard. They get used to things running one way outside of Jamaica, and find it challenging when things don't quite work the way they are used to in Jamaica. Heck, after going away for 1 week, I get a bit phased when I get back home and experience Jamrock in all its glory. (Nuttin' bun mi worse dan using real high speed Internet ova foreign, den coming back to dialup or 128K ADSL ova yah so - cross! )

The mistake some returning residents make, is not keeping the link with home, and losing touch with what's going on here. If you keep in the loop, it's easier for you to know what and where the risks are and how things are really running, so that you can better protect yourself and make your transition smoother.

Very few things in life are easy. Plenty of the good things come with challenges. Many people don't let crime or inconvenience deter them from coming home and contributing positively to the island. It can be done. It just takes careful thought and planning.

I may not be from Jamaica, though i agree with your outlook on getting back into the zone of Jamaica, i think you hit it right on the head. Staying in the loop can protect yourself. From your post I can see you love home, you mentioned in all its glory. Agian i agree about staying in touch with the community, it may not be Jamaica(as far as paradise but the crime is crazy here) but when I left Egypt to come back to the states to come home to Chicago i was behind the 8ball a little bit, i had to catch up and you could be seen as vulnerable if you are not careful.
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

I've been travelling to Jamaica for the last two years now and I'm making the move.. I know that the ways of life may not be as safe as they are here in Canada... but truth be told.. when you look out for yourself and watch your surroundings your better off.. I've never really been scared whether walking around at night by myself or travelling into unchartered territory... but you have to be street smart.. and watch your self the same way as you would anywhere... I'll be moving to the Ochi area.. and I'm sure I'll be fine.. people are very friendly and do in most times seem sto look out.. I mean I know for the most part I will forever been seen as a tourist.. with my white skin.. but hey.. that's jsut the way it goes.. let me get my pawtwa goin and then tings will be ire


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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

All the best to you Jennforever, and if you ever want to just talk, PM me here at ETJ and we will link up. I can come to Ochie if you can't get to Mobay very easily. Peace and love with your loved ones.
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Congrats mama an so what we are too hung up on color just live yuh life and enjoy it. Be safe and as we say in JA go with Jah blessings!Hopefully we can link up I'm having a dance in August around the Ochio Rios area.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:09 AM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

Three people were found shot to death in the family home here in Mobay a few days ago. There were two brothers and a girlfriend of one of the brothers. One brother was a returning Jamaican after being in the US for quite a few years. He came back to work on the family home. The home was ransacked and things taken.

Jamaica cannot be rebuilt if whenever a returning Jamaican is murdered for his possessions and money. When murders like this happen, it stops all the benefits the returnee would have given to Jamaica. It continues to hurt the very fiber of Jamaican society. It causes other Jamaicans to rethink their return. It is truly a sad situation and I don't see an end to it. I will pray for the Jamaican people and for eradication their very definite problems.
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

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Three people were found shot to death in the family home here in Mobay a few days ago. There were two brothers and a girlfriend of one of the brothers. One brother was a returning Jamaican after being in the US for quite a few years. He came back to work on the family home. The home was ransacked and things taken.

Jamaica cannot be rebuilt if whenever a returning Jamaican is murdered for his possessions and money. When murders like this happen, it stops all the benefits the returnee would have given to Jamaica. It continues to hurt the very fiber of Jamaican society. It causes other Jamaicans to rethink their return. It is truly a sad situation and I don't see an end to it. I will pray for the Jamaican people and for eradication their very definite problems.
Actually JaMiss, according to this article they were not returning residents, but deportees who were in prison in the US and they're suspected of being involved in criminal activities here. That doesn't justify what happened to them, but it thought that their involvement in shady stuff lead to their demise.
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:29 AM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

Thanks Bounty, but I don't see where it says they are involved in illegal activity, nor the part about prison time in the US.
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:38 PM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

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Thanks Bounty, but I don't see where it says they are involved in illegal activity, nor the part about prison time in the US.
My apologies JaMiss. I posted a link to the wrong article.

This article speaks of the brothers having a criminal history in the US.
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Old 02-13-2006, 11:04 AM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

Thanks Bounty for the enlightening info. I had not read this article, so it sheds light on the reasoning behind their murders, namely drug trafficking.
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I definitely plan on returning to JA to live as a matter of fact if all goes when with my presentation for a business plan I will be going back this Aug. Yes the crime against returning residents are very high but my parents just moved back in December and they seem fine. The corruption is very deep because if you think about it, it has to be on the inside because how else do these robbers know where the return residents are? The goverment I think is really trying to end the corruption as during my last visit I saw quite a few commercials urging people to report corruption so at least they are making an effort how far will it get them not sure but you have to admit there is a lot of cleaning up that needs to be done. However as I say no matter where you live you have to be careful. I have quite a few plans in life and Jamaica is a BIG part of most of them and I would love to see our island living up to it's FULL potential. I LOVE my JAMAICA!
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Old 02-18-2006, 09:30 AM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

This will never end. My neighbor across the street who is a returning Jamaican had her car stolen last night. It was parked very close to the house with a club on the steering wheel and yet they still stole it. Also in the vehicle were boxes of tiles for her new home she and her husband are building in Lucea. The good news is they had insurance for the theft.

My car is behind an automatic gate which I think deters the thieves from attempting the theft. Also it was at the JUTA compound in Mobay because one of their vans backed into me at a stop light and damaged the vehicle, and they were repairing the body damage. But now I am beginning to wander if I should further protect the vehicle when it returns today like disabling it somehow each night. I do use a club too.
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Old 02-19-2006, 10:53 AM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

More sad news. The neighbors told me yesterday afternoon that they are finishing their home in Lucea and leaving Jamaica for good. They have traveled the world extensively, living in many countries and have never had so much theft to deal with. This is very sad since they are upright citizens.
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

There is a saying that...... duppy know who fi frighten.....I have several relatives who move back and live in Kingston and seem to be doing quite well, some just come to visit and would never think about sending kids to school in America. Seems like this person for some reason is a mark for thieves, that is sad that they are thinking about leaving, their own country and cant feel comfortable dyam shame that. What kind of tieffing red eye people live near dem. Thats why I will not build unless I can take time off and supervise or have my family watch and see, no payment upfront either, pay as you go mi supervising all details. Mi no ramp wid tief and nastyniss.
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:09 AM
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Re: Going back, giving back, and rebuilding Jamaica.

Kgn20: Well Jamaica Miss lives across the street right now from them. LOL. The car was stolen across the street from me, but now they are suspicious of the company where they bought the car. They only received one key and I thought they had a club on the steering wheel but they said they only used the key lock which disable the vehicle. So the assumption that someone had a key is a pretty good deduction.

Most of the other theft is from the worksite in Lucea area. They have a watchman, but he is pretty poor, since they went in the night to the site, left their headlights flooding the area for a few minutes and he never appeared. They will be moving in about a week to their home. Hope they will be safe. They are looking at getting a cement wall and automatic gate like I have on my property. Under the circumstances I would feel that is a good thing to do.
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