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Old 06-28-2004, 03:52 PM
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Ferenhieght 9/11

This documentary was created by the dude who did "Bowling For Columbine" a docmentary which I LOVED! I though it was a very real dipiction of the political agenda of the US leaders.

This new one is going to better, and by far more contriversial! It shows the happenings of the 9 11 Terror attacks, and how it was handled by congressman, other national leaders, and by the business men of the USA!

One of the clip I saw was of a National conference where the business men of the United States got together and talked about ways to BANK on the tragedy and sufferation of the Nation! As I discussed in a previous thread about media, it is proven that people stimulate the economy when they are "scared". Affraid of what's going to happen. So they BANKED on that. Look at all the grocery stores and Wal-Marts that sold out on food and survival supplies.... their plan worked to say the least!

It also questions the motive for WAR. It actually, t actually challenges the idea of sending US citizens to die for the sake of OIL! It gets VERY politically incorrect, for lack of better terms, and kind of EXPOSES the corruption with in US government!

A lot of people say the guy lacks patriotism! I say "Thanks for not being brain washed! Thanks for not being scared to tell the truth about how 1st world countries stay RICH! Thanks for showing the REAL political agenda of your own President, with out fear of persecution!" George Bush is claiming that he is on a mission to save a nation that's in trouble... He's is freeing an opressed society. He also claimed that initally he was looking for weapons which he never found SO.. Do you feel that what Bush is portraying is the truth?!

How does ETJ feel about this kind of documentary? I know a lot of US citizens are on this site too, along with some who have served in the US Militray so, how does this kind of movie make you guys feel?
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Old 06-28-2004, 10:22 PM
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Re: Ferenhieght 9/11

i like columbine to i wanna watch this farenhiet movie but i duno when i think he makes one of the best movies in the earth GOOD
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Re: Ferenhieght 9/11

BASHMENT!!! FONT=NO LESS THAN 3!!!!

I have not seen the 9/11 movie yet nor bowling for Columbine but I've been encouraged by a few coworkers to rent the Columbine one before seeing the other. Just to get a taste of Michael Moore's style. I hear its riveting.
One guy I know saw the 9/11 movie this past Saturday and I was gonna post to see if anyone else here saw it. He said its absolutely fantastic and your mind won't stop working for days after you see it. I think even though I haven't seen it yet I recommend we all go see it. Its a real eye-opener.
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This documentary was created by the dude who did "Bowling For Columbine" a docmentary which I LOVED! I though it was a very real dipiction of the political agenda of the US leaders.

This new one is going to better, and by far more contriversial! It shows the happenings of the 9 11 Terror attacks, and how it was handled by congressman, other national leaders, and by the business men of the USA!

One of the clip I saw was of a National conference where the business men of the United States got together and talked about ways to BANK on the tragedy and sufferation of the Nation! As I discussed in a previous thread about media, it is proven that people stimulate the economy when they are "scared". Affraid of what's going to happen. So they BANKED on that. Look at all the grocery stores and Wal-Marts that sold out on food and survival supplies.... their plan worked to say the least!

It also questions the motive for WAR. It actually, t actually challenges the idea of sending US citizens to die for the sake of OIL! It gets VERY politically incorrect, for lack of better terms, and kind of EXPOSES the corruption with in US government!

A lot of people say the guy lacks patriotism! I say "Thanks for not being brain washed! Thanks for not being scared to tell the truth about how 1st world countries stay RICH! Thanks for showing the REAL political agenda of your own President, with out fear of persecution!" George Bush is claiming that he is on a mission to save a nation that's in trouble... He's is freeing an opressed society. He also claimed that initally he was looking for weapons which he never found SO.. Do you feel that what Bush is portraying is the truth?!

How does ETJ feel about this kind of documentary? I know a lot of US citizens are on this site too, along with some who have served in the US Militray so, how does this kind of movie make you guys feel?

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February 11, 2004 (67th anniversary of the Great Flint Sit-Down Strike)
An Open Letter from Michael Moore to George "I'm a War President!" Bush


Dear Mr. Bush,

Thank you for providing the illegible Xeroxed partial payroll sheets (or whatever they were) yesterday covering a few of your days in the National Guard. Now we know that, not only didn't you complete your tour of duty, you were actually paid for work you never did. Did you cash those checks? Wouldn't that be, um, illegal?

Watching the press aggressively demand the truth from your press secretary -- and refusing to accept the deceit, the dodging, and the cover-up -- was a sight to behold, something we really haven't seen since you took office (to watch or listen to the entire press conference, or to read the full transcript, go here).

More than one reporter pointed out that those pieces of paper your press secretary waved at them yesterday mean nothing. Even if they aren't forged documents, getting paid does not necessarily mean you showed up to do your duties. As retired Army Col. Dan Smith, a 26-year veteran, told the AP:

"Pay records don't mean anything except that you're in or you're out," said Smith. "It doesn't necessarily reflect what duty you've actually performed because pay records simply record your unit of assignment and then all of your pay and benefits per pay period."

Mr. Bush, this issue is not going to go away -- and I think yesterday's actions just dug you into a deeper hole. You're probably wondering why the heck this story won't just die. You probably thought that after I brought it up last month and then got slammed by Peter Jennings for uttering the "d" word, the whole matter would just disappear as fast as a bag of blow being thrown out the window of a speeding car on a deserted Maine highway.

But your "desertion" didn't go away -- and here's the reason why. You have sent countless numbers of our sons and daughters in the National Guard to their deaths in the last 11 months. You did this while misleading their parents and the nation with bogus lies about weapons of mass destruction and scary phony Saddam ties to al Qaeda. You sent them off to a never-ending war so that your benefactors at Halliburton and the oil companies could line their pockets. And then you had the audacity to prance around in a soldier's uniform on an aircraft carrier proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" -- while the cameras from your re-election campaign ad agency rolled.

THAT is what makes this whole business of your being AWOL so despicable, and makes the grief-stricken relatives want to turn away from you in disgust. The reason your skipping-out on your enlistment didn't matter in the 2000 election was because we were not at war. Being stuck in a deadly, daily quagmire now in 2004 makes your military history-fiction and your fly-boy costume VERY relevant.

You still have not answered the questions surrounding your National Guard "service." Let me repeat them as simply as I can for you (all of them based on the investigative work of the Associated Press and the Boston Globe):

1. How were you able to jump ahead of 500 other applicants to get into the Texas Air National Guard, thus guaranteeing you would not have to go to Vietnam? What calls did your father (who was then a United States Congressman representing Texas) make on your behalf for you to get this assignment?

2. Why were you grounded (not allowed to fly) after you either failed your physical or failed to take it in July 1972? Was there a reason you were afraid to take the physical? Or, did you take it and not pass it? If so, why didn't you pass it? Was it the urine test? The records show that, after the Guard spent years and lots of money training you to be a pilot, you never flew for the rest of your time in the Guard. Why?

3. Can you produce one person who can verify that he served with you in the Guard during the year that your Texas commanders said you did not show up? Why have you failed to bring forth anyone who served with you in the Guard while you were in Alabama? Why hasn't ONE SINGLE PERSON come forward?

4. Can you tell us what you did when you claim to have shown up in Alabama for Guard duty? What were your duties? You were grounded, so what did they have you do instead?

5. Where are the sign-up sheets that would have your name and service number on them for each weekend you showed up? Aaron Brown on CNN told us how, when he was in the reserves, he had to sign in each time he reported, and his guest from the Washington Post said, that's right, and there would be "four copies of that record" in the files of various agencies. Will you ask those agencies to release those records?

6. If you were in fact paid for that time when you apparently went AWOL, will you authorize the IRS to release your 1972-73 tax returns?

7. How did you get an honorable discharge? What strings were pulled? Who called who?

Look, I'm sorry to have put you through all this. I was just goofing around when I made that comment about wanting to see a debate between the general and the deserter. I had no idea that it would lead to this. And there you were, having to suffer through Tim Russert on Sunday, saying weird things like "I'm a war president!" I guess you believe that, or you want us to believe that. Americans have never voted out a Commander-in-Chief during a war. I guess that's what you're hoping for. You need the war.

But we don't. And our troops in the National Guard don't either. I know you see the writing on the wall, so why not come clean now? We are a forgiving people, and though you will not be returned to White House, you will find us grateful for a little bit of truth. Answer our questions, apologize to the nation, and bring our kids home.

Yours,
Michael Moore
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Re: Ferenhieght 9/11

All I have to say bout that is ITS ABOUT TIME!!! SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT!!!

How much you wanna bet that Mr.Moore's the next one on the proverbial chopping block.
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All I have to say bout that is ITS ABOUT TIME!!! SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT!!!

How much you wanna bet that Mr.Moore's the next one on the proverbial chopping block.
[font=Comic Sans MS] Can't get to him he's too big(yes, he's a big size man, but I mean big as powerful big).. Remember Disney blocked the distribution of his film... we all know who's the Governor of Florida, J Bush the president's brother.[/FONT
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Re: Ferenhieght 9/11

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Wow! That letter is unfathamably BOLD! Wow, that's why I have so much respect for the guy! Some say he's unpatriotic! I say he's as patriotic as it gets. His interest is in the country and it's citizens. THAT'S patriotism! Not killing your citizens for the love money, and the financially stable group of already rich politicians!
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Re: Ferenhieght 9/11

Ok I saw IT! FINALLY! LOL .. I've been looking forward to it and I saw it! I will tell you this is a MUST SEE! This documentary in absoultly phenominal!

I'm going to tell you that a lot of what I saw, confirmed my suspicions about G.W.Bush, now I don't THINK he's evil... I KNOW!!!! A lot of what I learned PERPLEXED my TRANQUILITY to say the least!!!!!! American citizens will be INFURIATED by watching this!

I'll let you know some of the stuff it addresses:

It reveals, prooves, and addresses a BUSINESS relationship between the G.Bush Sen. & Jr. ... and the Bin Laden Family! It talks about how even though ALL commercial flights (in and out of US) were grounded, the US government authorized the flight for some 23 family members of Bin Ladens family to be taken out of US for their SAFETY..LOL can you fatham the depths of that F-ery?! It reveals the REAL military records of George W. Bush. It compares the difference between the records released in 2004, and the TRUE documents. It talks about how the government keeps PROJECTS in the US deliberatley! They do it to force the residents to join the military as a way out! It talks about what lots of American soldiers are REALLY dying for in Iraq!

It talks about a lot of stuff that American media won't talk about! It's controversial to say the least, and I'm guessing people think Mr.Moore is pretty un-patriotic! I think he's one of the only one's who's actually interested in the wellfare of the US people!

Please go see it and chat back.. let me know what you thought!
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Re: Ferenhieght 9/11

when it opens here in Jamaica I will go see it and post my thoughts.
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Im very against bush and I really enjoyed this movie knowing that other people felt as strongly as I did...Very informative and it really does reveal the truth about alot of things, its pretty sad how are government is going down the drain like this..
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Re: Ferenhieght 9/11

I saw Farenheit 911 and loved it. Everyone in theater stood up and clapped at the end of the movie.
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Clapped !! And for good reason too! I was pretty dumbfounded by the movie! I thought it was unbelievable!
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