Lemme see if I can shed some light on the points you have raised.

Right now in Jamaica, there is the feeling that sucessive governments have failed to run the country in a manner that truly benefits all its citizens. The economy has declined significantly over the years due to bad policy decisions, corruption and mismanagement. I don't see that as being a result of being black, because similar things happen in countries which are white. Italy has major corruption problems. The Soviet Union has social and economic problems and issues with governance. The USA has issues as well. Every nation has their own challenges and problems.

Some people here feel that the system of governance and the level of organization etc. was better when Jamaica was still a colony under British rule. That may be true in some ways. In todays world however, regardless of whose rule you're under, certain problems are likely to face you. Crime is rampant all over the world. Economic hardships are being faced all over the world. I doubt that colonial rule would have shielded us completely from many of the negatives that are around today.

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Very waggish indeed.

I will have to say, that we opened doors for ourselves. There is no need to to name all of our people who have opened the doors for us a black Americans and for black people in general. I, will not give the white man credit for opening doors that they have been trying to shut on us. The doors that have been opened for us is on the backs of those that came before us. I understand the importance of having a black business. My father owns a business here in Chicago, a nice little healthy food joint. It makes a difference here in our community. My sister star, may peace continue to be with you, I admire your fight and your zeal. I agree we should stop blaming the whiteman for everything though, his track record is in a class by itself.

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Very well put, but what do you believe??. If you could make a choice right now?

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I am glad that Jamaica has gained it's independence being a black country, and I believe it can be governed properly with a strong leadership who is really concerned about the Jamaican people in addressing and the important issues that surround Jamaica in order to make this country a stronger country by uplifting this country in finding a solution to it's problems.

I am going to pray continously for this country and it's Jamaican people--a place that I have adopted as my home and someday soon will obtain my dual citizenship through my Jamaican husband.

Thats great to know, it seems jamaica and Ghana are african-american favoirtes as adopted homes. It's always feels good to connect with our lost brothers and sisters, if all nubian people had the love and passion for each other then we would be better off as a people.

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When the whiteman went to Africa and stole our black ancestors from the motherland that is when the seperation began of our black people and I call this a phyiscal seperation being that families were torn apart from one another and placed in different parts of the world as slaves.

But now that we understand this. As a black race with our ancestors all coming from one place, "Africa the mother land". We as blacks, be it Jamaican or American blacks must stop seperating ourselves mentally and embrace one another as brother's and sister's. It must be understood as a Jamaican or an American those are just titles that a person calls themselves because that is the birth place of where you come from but who we all are is "Black people" regardless of where you come from.

The whiteman knows that as long as we continue to seperate ourselves in such an manner then we will never have that love and passion for one another nor unity. So no matter where you come from the point is as blacks we are all one. If a Jamaican lady and a American lady both stood side by side and looked in a mirrior you would not know who was Jamaican or who was American. You would only see two black sisters.

So what I am saying here is...It is we as blacks who are doing the mental and physical seperation of one another by saying: I am Jamaican or I am American and I say that's okay, but we as blacks need to reconize that we are all family no matter were we come from and once that is understood then we can all come together in Love Peace and Happiness as ONE!

I must also add that alot of the African people I have seen has also seperated themselves from the rest of us blacks including Jamaican's and American black people and that is so hurtful to me. We must as black people all over the face of the earth must come together and reconize that we are all bother's and sister's.

God truly has blessed me to be able to go to Jamaica and connect with the Black people of Jamaica because they still have ties with the African ancestry roots more then we as Black Americans do and it is we as Black Americans who are the lost sheep. Being in Jamaica has open my eyes to many things and given me awarness of self.

So I wish that those who are Jamaicans don't feel like all Black American females come to Jamaica to get their groove back because that was not my purpose of going to Jamaica. I've been getting my groove on since I was 18yrs old and many moons have passed since then.

These trips to Jamaica were very educational for me and that is why on my first trip I wasn't afraid to walk amongst my black brother's and sister's locally and on that very first day that I was stepped foot in Jamaica I was given a warm welcome and felt much love by the my black brother's and sister's who are Jamaicans. Jamaica is home for me I would say being that I recently just took my 20th trip there within a 5 year span. And now when I come the Jamaican people tell me: You are back again! welcome home...

I can imagine horrified and sad the African slaves felt when they were stripped away from their homeland because I know when I leave Jamaica and I be at the airport I sling tears everywhere, My husband tells me that I love Jamaica more then I love him and he also says that Jamaica is his home and that I know more people in Jamaica then he does.

I guess you can see as many post and threads that I have I like to yak yak yak all the time especially in Jamaica LOL LOL LOL..

Peace and Blessings Star.

I love you my sister, we are all Africans. I understand your tears when you leave jamaica. I cried like a baby on the plane to Egypt and from Egypt. I kissed the ground and took pictures of the pyramids. I stood there in awe at what we as black people have built. Though star the tears came when the Arabs think that it was them and try to discredit us in the history of Egypt. That was painful talking to them over there to the point i didn't want to discuss it. We Nubian people are all family. The motherland has her seeds all over the world. We are one, you said it all in your post i will be living for Brazil very soon, there is a section i believe i will be visiting that still practice there west african culture, i have been to Brazil before... it is a great place of culture and when i heard most of them call themselves Afro-Brazilian i delighted. May peace continue to be unto you Star and blessings.

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I have always dreamed in my heart to someday visit the Pryamids but if I don't ever get to see the Pyramids physically I do feel like I am there when I get tapes from the library and read about our history then my dreams take me to that far away place and spiritually I feel connected. I too have always wanted to go to Brazil and that would have been my second choice.

I am so outraged and angry in how the Queens and Kings and some of our ancestors in the tombs have been removed from the graves of their resting place... I am being self-taught on the topics of the Pryamids starting with the history of Kemet and I proudly wear the Ankh around my neck. We as Nubian people have a history that is so rich and beautiful and sometimes it brings tears to my eyes to know that we were stripped of our history and Africa was stripped of riches of the earth.

I am sadden that our black children don't get the knowledge of self that they need to get within our educational system. When all we and our children were taught was, Christopher Columbus discovered America and that was one of the biggest lies ever told. When Christopher Columbus got to America the Indians was already there.

So many lies have been told but like the Honorable Minister Farrakhan said and I quote: "Every home should have a computer" and this is one of the ways that I am being self-taught. Our children are just not going to get in school. Yes, we have black history month, Geezzzzz, they allow our children to have the shortest month which is in February to learn a lifetime of history and they don't even touch on the history of our ancestors starting with the Land of Kemet letting our children know that our ancestors were Kings and Queens.

There is so much that I could talk about with you and I would love to do so but I am going to cut this one short because I know I can get carried away for the mere fact is I don't hate white people.....It's just that I love my Black People who exist all over the face of this earth and we as black people are a reflection of one another made in the image of God...I love my Black race so much until I don't have time to hate anyone else. The word Hate will never be in my vocabulary.

Also, I already know about the Arabs traveling to Egypt long ago who are still trying to strip our Nubian Ancestors title away from them, from my studies. I am not stupid and they need to quit playing our black people as fools...

Peace and Blessings to you "Aamilah"

I have to dissaggree with this part. Blacks in the beginning were not stolen, but sold by the very same kings of particular tribes we often praise. They did this in exchange for money, clothes and etc. They were separated from there familes, but before whites enslaved us, when they hit that continent, they were enslaved first. The slavery in africa was less harshed than the one in americas and other countries. Under any rule, jamaica will not have the independence to run there own country without someone looking over there shoulder. Jamaica needs help, if they can't do it within, need outside sources maybe required! Under anyones rule they would be helpful, but never better.



[quote=Star]When the whiteman went to Africa and stole our black ancestors from the motherland that is when the seperation began of our black people and I call this a phyiscal seperation being that families were torn apart from one another and placed in different parts of the world as slaves.

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Me? I think Jamaica should remain a sovereign nation. No being a part of the US. If anything, let the Caribbean nations unite themselves. I like being 100% Jamaican. I'm not one of those who are awestruck by the US.

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Very waggish indeed.

I was shocked when I learned that the reason so many statues had no nose was because it had been knocked off to hide the fact that they were black. I find that absolutely astounding.

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Now that's what I call "Bad Mind".

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"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake." - Matthew 5 v11 KJV

Very waggish indeed.

no jamaica should not become appart of the us they would change tro much

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Until Jamaica is strong enough economically to stand on it's own, the US will always have a say in Jamaican politics. Look how heavily the DEA leans on national policy in Jamaica.

If you get money from Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam has a say in your life. Like it or not.

Jamaica should find ways to ween off of US dollars, because until it does, we own you. Like it or not.



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