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JASpice · #46 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

the only thing I planned is the fact that I will not have any other children in my life. You can have a secret partner without having children and i do not see any sin there.

That is most definitely a sin lady! Sleeping around with a secret partner is not very appropriate while raising a child either. And planning to not have children while sleeping around is definitely NOT a full proof plan!! lol

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

I have a very big concern for my child, and I have a bf from time to time but I decided I am not going to mess her up by bringing somebody home.that is all.my daughet has a very peaceful time, living with me, her grandparents close, her father visiting during the weekends and is happy like that.

Absolutely no stability having a bf from time to time... what kind of example is this?? Oh wait... I forgot, they are secret lovers.

Oh... and still trying to figure out how the weekends work from Londen to Prague...that's quite the traveling father.... nice to see the dedication from him.

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

Where does God fall in place in all this carefree stuff???

I am not carefree, first thing. Second thing is- what does God have to do with this? I do believe in God, but refuse the catholic church absolutely and the rules that we are bread with in church every Sunday.My whole family is very Catholic but I see it only as a hide away.I have my rules, am trying to behave well, do not lie, do not steal do not hate. So why should God have an issue with me?

LOL.... First you are carefree... then you are not! You need to get your story straight lady!!

Ironic mentioning being Catholic...lol. Anyhow, it doesn't matter if you are catholic, Lutheran, or baptist.... If you are indeed Christian then your way of life IMO is indeed sinful. Secret Lovers kinda tops the list of what is wrong. lol.

What issues would God have with you.... you seriously do not want me to answer this do you??

Where does God fall into this..... well, first of all God should have everything to do with how you live, act, and raise your child. But initially my response is related to your earlier post ....

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

there is a proverb here in my country: If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans....
and i see it as that.I embrace whatever comes to me and I do not believe my will will change a thing, I believe it is all written down and the only thing I can do is keep my face up and bear all with dignity or enjoy to the fullest the beautiful moments...

lbelly · #47 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JASpice

EXACTLY!! I haven't even read this thread entirely, but to notion that a baby only changes life to a certain degree!?!?!?!?! COME ON!!!!

Only a mother that doesn't care enuff about their child/ren or a girl that hasn't had a child would make a comment as such!!

Nothing about a parents life is ever the same after having a child!!!

As a mother... anything I do has everything to do with my kids!

I am very sorry but I still lead my personal life as well. Life changed, of course, I stayed with the baby at home for the first two years, I cannot pack my things and just go on a journey around the world as I used to.But i can still go on a holiday with my friends and be there for two weeks and I am the old Betty that I used to be....common.
I still go to cinemas, parties and dinners with y friends who are all childless and they do not take me any different than them.I have less time as the time is divided, have maybe 20% of time for myself and 80% for the baby but I am not chickening around her. My friends are all childless as it was their choice, they do nto like children so any time I am with them , we do not talk about my baby.Yes, my life changed but I still have my what I call college moments...And I am proud I maintained my private life to a certin degree, I feel i can give my daughter more then....

U do ur thing the best way u know how girl, having a child doesn't mean that life has to end, rather, lots of mothers find it difficult to balance their own lives, as well as being a mother, u do have to separate urself and take care of u...U are not going to do that baby any good by not taking time out for urself

lbelly · #48 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:23 AM

R u ok today Spice? Have u had ur coffee yet?? Geez

JASpice · #49 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lbelly

woo woo, i think thats a bit harsh, u don't know how old this girl is, and making bad decisions doesn't mean that you dont care about ur child, geez, Ms Christian, way to go judging people without reading the thread first

LOL... she's thirty and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to read all of her stuff and realize that it's pure entertainment.

And you are right..I am making a judgement...can't help it... lol

lbelly · #50 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JASpice

LOL... she's thirty and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to read all of her stuff and realize that it's pure entertainment.

And you are right..I am making a judgement...can't help it... lol

lol, i don't think i've seen u this riled up so early! lolol

JASpice · #51 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

securing my daughter has things to eat, a roof over her head is not planning, jeez. It is normal life, I work since I was 18, went to university, then got a job, and never planned, just was expecting where life brought me.

Planning is a process of making plans for something.... you know... how your days is going to go, how you are going to eat or even put a roof over your head.... how you are going to pay for it.

Your idea of planning is OBVIOUSLY not in my comprehension and I am left to believe that I will not understand you nor agree with you on much.

This is becoming a waste of my time....... lata!!! LOL

BettyCzech · #52 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:34 AM

Well, Jaspice, It Is Also My Mistake That Me And My Boyfriend Split Up, I Indeed Consider It My Big Mistake In Life But Such Things Happen, 50% Of All Relationships End By Divorce In Eu...fine, It Took Me A Long Time To Rest About It.
He Was Not Around Even When We Were Together, Being A General Director Of A Big Multinational Company , He Works All Around The World And Travels A Lot. It Takes Exactly 90 Minutes To Get From London To Prague, And Since We Have No Money Issues, He Does It Every Weekend. I See No Issue In That, Fine, Having A Normal Family Would Be Much Better But Life Is Not About What Should Be But What It Is..

JASpice · #53 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lbelly

lol, i don't think i've seen u this riled up so early! lolol

LOL.... I just can't believe what I am reading... I seriously can't stop laughing and shaking my head at the same time!!

I gotta rush off to work though... My PLANS for the day are going off course!!! LOL

Lata!

BettyCzech · #54 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JASpice

LOL... she's thirty and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to read all of her stuff and realize that it's pure entertainment.

And you are right..I am making a judgement...can't help it... lol

ME ALL ABOUT FUN? THE FACT THAT I GO TO THE CINEMA OR THEATRE ONCE, MAXIMUM TWICE A WEEK? JEEZ, YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS. I EVEN HAD EXACTLY 2 GUYS SINCE ME AND MY PARTNER SPLIT, 2 YEARS AGO? DOES THAT MAKE ME IRRESPONSIBLE? FINE, THEN I AM THE BIGGEST WHORE IN THE EYES OF GOD, OK.
ME ABOUT FUN? GILR, I HAD TO WORK HARD TO GET WHERE I GOT WORKWISE, PLUS I WAS INTEPRETING FROM ITALIAN AND PORTUGUESE, NO ENGLISH.
I LIKE HAVING COMPANY BUT SINCE I AM A SINGLE MOTHER, YOU CAN COUNT THE TIME I AM HAVING FUN AND NOT WORKING ON ONE HAND...MY BABY GOES TO CHILD CARE ONLY FOR 4 HOURS A DAY AND THEN WE DO ACTIVITY TOGETHER, SWIMMING, PAINTING, ENGLISH COURSES.....AM I IRRESPONSIBLE? FINE, I COULD HIRE A NANNY ANY TIME AND HAVE NEVER DONE, I USE MY MUM TWICE A WEEK FOR EVENING BABY SITTING AND I NEVER COME HOME AFTER 1 PM AS I KNOW I MUST GET UP THE NEXT DAY...

BettyCzech · #55 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:41 AM

That is most definitely a sin lady! Sleeping around with a secret partner is not very appropriate while raising a child either. And planning to not have children while sleeping around is definitely NOT a full proof plan!! lol

WE HAVE DIFFERENT OUTLOOK ON WHAT SIN IS....I AM FREE TO DO WHAT I WANT AND WILL NOT BE JUDGED BY SOMEBODY WHO DOES NOT KNOW ME. I DO NOT TAKE THE **** THAT YOU SHOULD ONLY SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND AS THERE WOULD ALMOST ZERO CHILDREN IN EUROPE, WAKE UP, GIRL, 14TH CENTURY HAS PASSED LONG AGO.

SECRET LOVERS? AND WHAT, SHOULD I BRING EVERY MAN I GET TO KNOW HOME AND MAKE HIM A CONSTANT PRESENCE IN MY BABYS LIFE AND THEN WHEN HE GOES AWAY DAY, WHO WILL FEEL BAD? OF COURSE, MY BABY? DO U LET YOUR CHILDREN WATCH HOW U AND YOUR HUSBAND MAKE LOVE? WOW, HOW OPEN YOU ARE. PRAY THAT YOU NEVER DIVORCE OR THAT YOUR HUSBAND DOES NOT WALK OUT OF YOU....

lbelly · #56 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JASpice

LOL.... I just can't believe what I am reading... I seriously can't stop laughing and shaking my head at the same time!!

I gotta rush off to work though... My PLANS for the day are going off course!!! LOL

Lata!

I really don't see the hostility toward her comments

There is no parenting manual and parenting styles differ...i mean, im sure everyone doesn't agree with stuff i do, but im a damn good mother and proof is in the pudding, my kids are great...Who are u to shake ur head at her? She obviously has family to help her, just cause she's 30 doesn't mean she's supposed to know all...i mean, wisdom comes from expierience...

BettyCzech · #57 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lbelly

lol, i don't think i've seen u this riled up so early! lolol

ME ALL FUN? ARE YOU OUT OF THIS WORLD, I CAN HAVE FUN THOUGH BE A SERIOUS PERSON...I CURRENTLY EMPLOY 56 PEOPLE, YOU THINK I AM THAT IRRESPONSIBLE?
HOW ABOUT PROVIDING A FUTURE FOR MY DAUGHTER? I TOLD BEFORE, FINANCIALLY SHE IS FINE FOR THE REST OF HER DAYS, I MADE SURE OF THIS, AM EARNING WELL ENOUGH BUT I AM NOT GOING TO FORCE HER TO STUDY, WHATEVER SHE CHOOSES, SHE CAN DO AND I AND HER FTHER MADE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO SUSTAIN HER.....

lbelly · #58 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

ME ALL ABOUT FUN? THE FACT THAT I GO TO THE CINEMA OR THEATRE ONCE, MAXIMUM TWICE A WEEK? JEEZ, YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS. I EVEN HAD EXACTLY 2 GUYS SINCE ME AND MY PARTNER SPLIT, 2 YEARS AGO? DOES THAT MAKE ME IRRESPONSIBLE? FINE, THEN I AM THE BIGGEST WHORE IN THE EYES OF GOD, OK.
ME ABOUT FUN? GILR, I HAD TO WORK HARD TO GET WHERE I GOT WORKWISE, PLUS I WAS INTEPRETING FROM ITALIAN AND PORTUGUESE, NO ENGLISH.
I LIKE HAVING COMPANY BUT SINCE I AM A SINGLE MOTHER, YOU CAN COUNT THE TIME I AM HAVING FUN AND NOT WORKING ON ONE HAND...MY BABY GOES TO CHILD CARE ONLY FOR 4 HOURS A DAY AND THEN WE DO ACTIVITY TOGETHER, SWIMMING, PAINTING, ENGLISH COURSES.....AM I IRRESPONSIBLE? FINE, I COULD HIRE A NANNY ANY TIME AND HAVE NEVER DONE, I USE MY MUM TWICE A WEEK FOR EVENING BABY SITTING AND I NEVER COME HOME AFTER 1 PM AS I KNOW I MUST GET UP THE NEXT DAY...

Girl please stop explaining urself, Im sure Spice has done her dirt and is now married to Jesus, and now wants to shake her finger at everyone else, just like a good Christian! lololol...i very much know how to balance my social life, as well as being a great mother, it is possible...people that don't know how to do that cant imagine how we do it so let them judge, its all gravy

BettyCzech · #59 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:47 AM

Where does God fall into this..... well, first of all God should have everything to do with how you live, act, and raise your child. But initially my response is related to your earlier post ....

THIS IS THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH MANY CHRISTIANS...YOU ONLY CONSIDER GOOD WAY OF LIFE YOUR WAY OF LIFE. I DO NOT **** AROUND, JUST RETURNED FROM JA, HAD MORE THAN MANY OPPORTUNITIES **** ANYBODY I WANTED AND DID NOT DO IT EVEN ONCE.BUT I AM NOT A NUN AND SORRY, HAD TWO GUYS IN 2 YEARS, WOW, COMLETE PROSTITUTE.
AS TO MY EX PARTNER, YES HE IS NOT AROUND EVERY DAY ONLY SINCE FRIDAY TILL MONDY MORNING....FINE, NOT PERFECT, ON THE OTHER HAND IF AYO WANTS TO DO ANYTHING, HE WILL PROVIDE THE MONEY...AND WHEN HE IS AROUND,, HE TAKES NON STOP CARE, HE SPENDS MORE TIME WITH HER THAN USUALLY FATHERS DO AND WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN GOOD PARENTS TOGETHER BUT HE IS A PREFECT FATHER AND I AM HAPPY TO HAVE A CHILD WITH HIM

BettyCzech · #60 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:49 AM

Planning is a process of making plans for something.... you know... how your days is going to go, how you are going to eat or even put a roof over your head.... how you are going to pay for it.

ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT, I HAVE MY OWN COMPANY, EARN ENOUGH AND EVEN IF I STOPPED WORKING NOW, I WOULD BE FINE FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS...THE ISSUE IS IT DID NOT REQUIRE ANY HARD PLANNING, I AM JUST GOOD AT MAKING BUSINESS, THAT IS ALL.AND HAD A LOT OF LUCK...