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bountyx · #31 (**permalink**) 10-26-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Rasta

LOL!!!

den that goes same way! seems ur PI skills even weaker den mine!--at least some members here can attest to meetting kennjai and myself at the same time..

How much did u pay that person to play the role?

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Originally Posted by kennjai

i would evpect more from U Bountyx, where dem skills at?

My game is on point. I will not be fooled kenny.

lbelly · #32 (**permalink**) 10-26-2009, 08:19 PM

^^^^aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!! DWL!! I just got the Kenny reference!^^^ Or, am i cracking myself up? Kenny as in alter, or Kenny as in southpark!! lol, Kenny from southpark would be much funnier! lolol

JASpice · #33 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Rasta

having a baby changes EVERY ASPECT of your ENTIRE LIFE..

EXACTLY!! I haven't even read this thread entirely, but to notion that a baby only changes life to a certain degree!?!?!?!?! COME ON!!!!

Only a mother that doesn't care enuff about their child/ren or a girl that hasn't had a child would make a comment as such!!

Nothing about a parents life is ever the same after having a child!!!

As a mother... anything I do has everything to do with my kids!

***ok... I'll go read the rest now...lol

JASpice · #34 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

there is a proverb here in my country: If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans....
and i see it as that.I embrace whatever comes to me and I do not believe my will will change a thing, I believe it is all written down and the only thing I can do is keep my face up and bear all with dignity or enjoy to the fullest the beautiful moments...

So do you have any consistency in your life then?? How about a career?? And what about retirement???

JASpice · #35 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

oh, ok, I am not lillie white..was just asking if it was not a term you use as I am not english mother tongue....

well, i have a three years old daughter and believe me, it has changed me, I now even sometimes remeber to do the shopping

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I am thirty and I am not regarded as being very responsible, it is true. But I also think that you should do some decent planning concernig facts like a stabile income, this comes without saying.
But as to love? or affection? or whatever it might be? noooooooo, noooooo,noooo. I think the only beautiful and fully free moments should be those attached to love, without any planning what so ever. Another thing is that a lot of JA men are as you described above, I just came back from JA and noticed that, too. But I think the girl has already fallen for the boy, and when you fall for somebody, there is no way out,that is why I was saying that she should just enjoy it, drag the best out of it because when she hits the floor again, the only thing that will keep her up, is the beautiful memories.....

Ok... now we are getting somewhere.... although ones child should STILL be put above the fully free moments without any planning. This is where sin grabs a hold of one and the next thing you know the little one has unwanted siblings running around screaming for dinner cause mommy forgot about it and is running care free around with her lover.... no concern for anyone but herself.

Where does God fall in place in all this carefree stuff???

JASpice · #36 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

But I think the girl has already fallen for the boy, and when you fall for somebody, there is no way out, that is why I was saying that she should just enjoy it, drag the best out of it because when she hits the floor again, the only thing that will keep her up, is the beautiful memories....

That is the craziest thing I have heard today! Well... okay, maybe not the only crazy thing within this thread!! LOL

There is ALWAYS a way out! It's easier to walk away sooner then it is later... making the best of something isn't going to help... it will only make it worse!!

This is just not good advice Betty... not at all. SO sad.... even if you aren't who you say you are. Actually.... that would even make it worse.

***shaking head and trying to walk away from this before thumping another on the head with my bible.

BettyCzech · #37 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JASpice

That is the craziest thing I have heard today! Well... okay, maybe not the only crazy thing within this thread!! LOL

There is ALWAYS a way out! It's easier to walk away sooner then it is later... making the best of something isn't going to help... it will only make it worse!!

This is just not good advice Betty... not at all. SO sad.... even if you aren't who you say you are. Actually.... that would even make it worse.

***shaking head and trying to walk away from this before thumping another on the head with my bible.

oh gosh, came to this site this morning and was astonished.....ok, I will try to clarify.
1.i am really not Lillie white and all the facts I state are 100% true. I am thirty, have a daughter, am not married, her father lives in London and sees her regularly. Which kinda makes it even harder for me as I am a single mother and have to provide for all. There is no word about who comes first in my life, of course, it is my daughter and in all I do , I am trying to secure her a good future for whatever she chooses to do. But on the other hand I will never say I gave up on my life, my private life where my daughter does not enter. Now, that might seem nasty from me, in fact I just decided that after the split up with her father I am not going to bring any man to our place any longer, I am not going to marry again or live with somebody....time can prove me wrong but now I see it as that.On the other hand, I cannot live like a nun...so, yes , I go out with my friends or lover twice a week when my mum takes care of my baby, yes, I do take holidays twice or three times a yaer, once always alone, without my baby and twice with her. Is that mean? does it make me a bad mother? no, we have the best of relationships but as she now has her friends, she also understands I have my life too and despite any time I have to deiced who comes first, I do not have the slightest doubt, I will not recejt my private life as it would be road to hell.
2.responsability- I think there might be an issue between different politics in the US, JA and Europe. I have my own business, am paying every month a decent amount towards my retirement, have private savings as well, and that is about it. In my country when you are 60 u go to retirement and receive monthly payment from the state, they are enough to sustain you living, just as my mum does....of course, I could save more and be a rich pensioner but that is not my goal.I do not see any hard planning there, plus all the payments I do are obligatory , the same goes for health insurance, we have medical care for free, we only need to pay some 30 US dollars a month for it, obligatory again.no planning there.
3.as to my daughters future: what planning? she is 3, I do not know if she wants to study one day, or play tennis or be an artist...I do not plan. Educatio is for free here, even universities, so no planning, she needs to be good enough to enter a university, that is her thing....
3.as to my business, I have a language school and a cultural institute - set up in 2 months, no planning at all.I used to work as an interpreter for the governement, used to travel a lot, couldnt afford that being a mum so one evening I sat down, thought about what I could do and this idea popped up. I have my school for over 2 years now, running well and I made no such plans, life brought me there....

BettyCzech · #38 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 07:04 AM

Ok... now we are getting somewhere.... although ones child should STILL be put above the fully free moments without any planning. This is where sin grabs a hold of one and the next thing you know the little one has unwanted siblings running around screaming for dinner cause mommy forgot about it and is running care free around with her lover.... no concern for anyone but herself.

oh jeez, not at all.In fact the only thing I planned is the fact that I will not have any other children in my life. You can have a secret partner without having children and i do not see any sin there.
I have a very big concern for my child, and I have a bf from time to time but I decided I am not going to mess her up by bringing somebody home.that is all.my daughet has a very peaceful time, living with me, her grandparents close, her father visiting during the weekends and is happy like that.
Where does God fall in place in all this carefree stuff???

I am not carefree, first thing. Second thing is- what does God have to do with this? I do believe in God, but refuse the catholic church absolutely and the rules that we are bread with in church every Sunday.My whole family is very Catholic but I see it only as a hide away.I have my rules, am trying to behave well, do not lie, do not steal do not hate. So why should God have an issue with me?

BettyCzech · #39 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by windypace

No... there are just certain requirements I need in a potential mate... and most of those take time to find out if people have them or not.

A long time.

maybe the misunderstanding is the fact that I do not search for a potential companion in life, if I had to be 100% honest, I want somebody who can entertain me and is good in bed, but there is no man I would ever want as a true partner.The only man in my life I felt like creating a real couple was the father of my baby and that has goe wrong. So yes, I vote for having fun at each cost....

BettyCzech · #40 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Rasta

????

who is sterotyping you?

and why would such be the other way around ("JA responsible people and a nothern European woman with no responsability") . i cant say i understand what you are trying to relay

I was trying to say that it felt funny for me as we have certainstereotypes about people from the Carribean as being very irresponsible, making children and not knowing how to feed them and so on.....I do not say I share the view.But I just felt amused when I saw that I am less serious and responsible than you, though if we went by stereotypes, it should be the other way round...that is all.

BettyCzech · #41 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 07:16 AM

[quote=JASpice;576660]
EXACTLY!! I haven't even read this thread entirely, but to notion that a baby only changes life to a certain degree!?!?!?!?! COME ON!!!!

Only a mother that doesn't care enuff about their child/ren or a girl that hasn't had a child would make a comment as such!!

Nothing about a parents life is ever the same after having a child!!!

As a mother... anything I do has everything to do with my kids!

I am very sorry but I still lead my personal life as well. Life changed, of course, I stayed with the baby at home for the first two years, I cannot pack my things and just go on a journey around the world as I used to.But i can still go on a holiday with my friends and be there for two weeks and I am the old Betty that I used to be....common.
I still go to cinemas, parties and dinners with y friends who are all childless and they do not take me any different than them.I have less time as the time is divided, have maybe 20% of time for myself and 80% for the baby but I am not chickening around her. My friends are all childless as it was their choice, they do nto like children so any time I am with them , we do not talk about my baby.Yes, my life changed but I still have my what I call college moments...And I am proud I maintained my private life to a certin degree, I feel i can give my daughter more then....

BettyCzech · #42 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JASpice

That is the craziest thing I have heard today! Well... okay, maybe not the only crazy thing within this thread!! LOL

There is ALWAYS a way out! It's easier to walk away sooner then it is later... making the best of something isn't going to help... it will only make it worse!!

This is just not good advice Betty... not at all. SO sad.... even if you aren't who you say you are. Actually.... that would even make it worse.

***shaking head and trying to walk away from this before thumping another on the head with my bible.

Again I see it differentely. I went through it all with my ex, I knew from the start that it would end up as a disaster, but I fell in love and there was no way to get out of it.Of course, it finished as a disaster after 4 years, but do I regret? NO WAY. and even knowiing what I know now, I would happily do it again as I was feeling the happiest person in the world for 4 years, I was living and loving and nobody will ever be able to take away those moments from me. So yes, I say go for it even thouh it make finish badly as it may never happen to you to fall in love again. And I say as somebody who couldnt even breathe when all finished badly, went down to 45kgs but it damn worth it....would do it again right away.

BettyCzech · #43 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 07:42 AM

I hope I made it all a bit clearer. Of curse I have certainplans, but going to work and securing my daughter has things to eat, a roof over her head is not planning, jeez. It is normal life, I work since I was 18, went to university, then got a job, and never planned, just was expecting where life brought me.If you call this planning, then I am sorry, i do not see it this way, I am a single mother, provide all the finances, am doing fine but calling it planning? no, it is normal life, i wish I won the lottery but I didnt so need to work. that is called planning? I even sset up my company in 1 day without any previous planning, it just came to my head and somehow I am coping, living well and earning well.without planning.
and God? doesnt he like me the way I am ? well, then I do not care, I am trying to live not hurting anybody, trying to help and I genuinly do not hate anybody. If the fact I do not have a bible at home, do not go to church and do not turn to god anytime I feel uneasy and in problems, then I do not want such god.I live by my best standarts and this must be enough...

JASpice · #44 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

1.i am really not Lillie white

LOL.... I don't think you are Lilly white... IMO that would be insulting her intelligence.

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

I am thirty, have a daughter, am not married, her father lives in London and sees her regularly.Which kinda makes it even harder for me as I am a single mother and have to provide for all.

Sees her regulary, but lives a couple countries away?? Yet it makes it hard for you since you provide for all??

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

Is that mean? does it make me a bad mother? no, we have the best of relationships but as she now has her friends, she also understands I have my life too and despite any time I have to deiced who comes first, I do not have the slightest doubt,

You're daughter is 3!!! She has her own friends and understands??? You have to decide who comes first???

*ahhhh bwoy... shaking head

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

I will not recejt my private life as it would be road to hell.

Thank you!!!

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

3.as to my daughters future: what planning? she is 3, I do not know if she wants to study one day, or play tennis or be an artist...I do not plan.

You still can't be serious??!!

How about planning for her education, insuring her stability, giving the best possible opportunity for HER future, establishing consistency. To do this is DOES require planning!!

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Originally Posted by BettyCzech

3.as to my business, I have a language school and a cultural institute - set up in 2 months, no planning at all.I used to work as an interpreter for the governement, used to travel a lot, couldnt afford that being a mum so one evening I sat down, thought about what I could do and this idea popped up. I have my school for over 2 years now, running well and I made no such plans, life brought me there....

LOL... guess we can't use the language barrier excuse anymore now can we!!!

lbelly · #45 (**permalink**) 10-27-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JASpice

EXACTLY!! I haven't even read this thread entirely, but to notion that a baby only changes life to a certain degree!?!?!?!?! COME ON!!!!

Only a mother that doesn't care enuff about their child/ren or a girl that hasn't had a child would make a comment as such!!

Nothing about a parents life is ever the same after having a child!!!

As a mother... anything I do has everything to do with my kids!

***ok... I'll go read the rest now...lol

woo woo, i think thats a bit harsh, u don't know how old this girl is, and making bad decisions doesn't mean that you dont care about ur child, geez, Ms Christian, way to go judging people without reading the thread first