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Old 09-08-2009, 01:00 PM
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9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

In a couple of days it will be yet a nother day that will live in infamy in the history of the United States. Our airwaves and news media will be saturated with accounts, recounts and recollections of this eventual day. Speculations will be brought to bear once again on our achievements and failures on the world stage of fighting terrorism, our intervention into Iraq and Afghanistan and how our way of life in the Western World has changed since then. Conspiracy theories will resurface and criticisms and condemnations regurgitate like undigested food after a Labor Day smorgasborg.

How has your personal way of life changed since September 11, 2001?
Comparing your opinions on the US way of life, US foreign policy, terrorism and anything else before, immediately after and now..How has it changed in any of those areas?


Should we slowly try to forget this unfortunate event in world history...or should we remember always?
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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

September 11, 2001 was an extremely sad day in human history when hate motivated a group of people to purposely fly jets filled with innocent people into buildings. In the aftermath the U.S. got alot of sympathy from the rest of the world and lost it when George Bush started a misguided war with Iraq supposedly in the fight against terrorism.

I do not believe that the fight against terrorism can be won by military means. The escalating death toll of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan after 8 years demonstrates that. The war against terrorism can be one where there is greater intelligence gathering and co-operation between allies around the world. Also one needs to understand and address the reasons why people are so angry that they would become so destructive.

It is one of those defining events that won't be forgotten. It has changed the way many of us fly. There are alot more security precautions such as seemingly harmless items now banned from being checked into hand luggage and having to take off one's shoes. Also there is greater suspicion against people of Arab descent.


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Old 09-09-2009, 03:14 PM
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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

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September 11, 2001 was an extremely sad day in human history when hate motivated a group of people to purposely fly jets filled with innocent people into buildings. In the aftermath the U.S. got alot of sympathy from the rest of the world and lost it when George Bush started a misguided war with Iraq supposedly in the fight against terrorism.

I do not believe that the fight against terrorism can be won by military means. The escalating death toll of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan after 8 years demonstrates that. The war against terrorism can be one where there is greater intelligence gathering and co-operation between allies around the world. Also one needs to understand and address the reasons why people are so angry that they would become so destructive.

It is one of those defining events that won't be forgotten. It has changed the way many of us fly. There are alot more security precautions such as seemingly harmless items now banned from being checked into hand luggage and having to take off one's shoes. Also there is greater suspicion against people of Arab descent.


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And has this caused you to think or act differently as far as paying more attention to anything or anyone that looks suspicious?

However you feel today, did you feel that very same way immediatekly after you heard of the tragedy?
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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

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And has this caused you to think or act differently as far as paying more attention to anything or anyone that looks suspicious?

However you feel today, did you feel that very same way immediatekly after you heard of the tragedy?
I live here in Jamaica and haven't travelled post 9-11 so I don't have any fears of a terrorist attack therefore I would not be looking at anybody suspiciously in that regard.

For me, it is still hard to believe the events of that day. I do watch the annual remembrances on TV. Its always sad to see the families having to relive this terrible tragedy.

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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

I have no problem with people wanting to remember it as long as they don't try to get political mileage out of it.

9/11 was "allowed" to happen. And for a reason.

Our biggest terrorist threat is inside our own government.


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I have no problem with people wanting to remember it as long as they don't try to get political mileage out of it.

9/11 was "allowed" to happen. And for a reason.

Our biggest terrorist threat is inside our own government.


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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

The moment I saw the first tower fall, I knew the New World Order had just cemented it's power in the United States.

Nothing makes people circle the wagons faster than the thought of an enemy approaching. They'll shoot first and ask questions later.

You'll recall the push to rally around the president in such times?

What what if the president is a part of the problem too?

What then?


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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

it should just go down in US History!

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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

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In a couple of days it will be yet a nother day that will live in infamy in the history of the United States. Our airwaves and news media will be saturated with accounts, recounts and recollections of this eventual day. Speculations will be brought to bear once again on our achievements and failures on the world stage of fighting terrorism, our intervention into Iraq and Afghanistan and how our way of life in the Western World has changed since then. Conspiracy theories will resurface and criticisms and condemnations regurgitate like undigested food after a Labor Day smorgasborg.

How has your personal way of life changed since September 11, 2001?
personally seeing the wreckage and knowing ppl who died is very different than seeing it on TV--for all those who only had TV glimpses of the attack, seeing it in person was a THOUSAND times worse!
It opened my eyes to the world and its view of America and Americans
Comparing your opinions on the US way of life, US foreign policy, terrorism and anything else before, immediately after and now..How has it changed in any of those areas?

Should we slowly try to forget this unfortunate event in world history...or should we remember always?
it should fall to the past with any and all other tragedies! Keep regurgitating the same old thing cant help!
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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

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it should fall to the past with any and all other tragedies! Keep regurgitating the same old thing cant help!
OK.
So does just letting it "fall to teh past with any and all tragedies", imply that we (the US) should no longer see Al kahieda as dangerous terrorist elements?
Should we also drop our (so called) tightened level of security at our ports, across the nation and abroad?
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OK.
So does just letting it "fall to teh past with any and all tragedies", imply that we (the US) should no longer see Al kahieda as dangerous terrorist elements?
Should we also drop our (so called) tightened level of security at our ports, across the nation and abroad?
of course we should still see Al Queda as a danger!...and take measures to secure the ppl of the US as much as possible!
Had the US gone after the "terrorist" (subjective as many ppl around the world see the US as the terrorist)...but had US gone after the terrorist instead of diverting the issue with this "war on terror" --attacking any brown nation, that had NOTING to do with Bin Laden and Al Queda...for its own agenda, i would understand ur question!
but as of yet..wheres the Bin?
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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

Bin is chillen, same as always...this wasn't just an attack folks..they brought down the friggen world trade center in NYC...the economic center
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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

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of course we should still see Al Queda as a danger!...and take measures to secure the ppl of the US as much as possible!
Had the US gone after the "terrorist" (subjective as many ppl around the world see the US as the terrorist)...but had US gone after the terrorist instead of diverting the issue with this "war on terror" --attacking any brown nation, that had NOTING to do with Bin Laden and Al Queda...for its own agenda, i would understand ur question!
but as of yet..wheres the Bin?
OK.
Thats a fair opinion.


PS: I had to laugh at the term "brown nation".
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Re: 9-11...Should we remember, or try to forget?

i think we all understand the sybolism of the place of attacks...

teh US's finance and security centers/orgnizations!---

but we havent dont anything about it cept divert attention on Sudam...now 35% of the US population belives Sudam is responsible and in cahoots with Bin Laden and Al Queda..when these two are COMPLETELY different in every way and positivly HATE one another.

US is so racist...in that just cuz the military went after some "brown" folks...we happy even if they not even the RIGHT BROWN FOLKS...just foolery!
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OK.
Thats a fair opinion.


PS: I had to laugh at the term "brown nation".
r they not our brown brothers and sisters?
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