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Ok, that's what I thought.
Irie....he hasn't only been there 6 months.. he only lives there 6 months out of the year. If I were a white girl from Canada, I certainly wouldn't be challenging a Jamaican about knowing the culture. If I were you. It looks silly. Everyone has had their own experiences. Its wrong to tell him that a Browning baby wouldn't get preferential treatment in Jamaica. You can only say that IT IS WRONG that a browning should get special treatment. but you nor he can say what treatment that baby will get. The treatment of any person whether here, there or anywhere depends largely upon the people they come in contact with. There are forward thinkers and then there are backward thinkers. Many many people in Jamaica think brownings with "pretty hair" are more special. As horrifying as that may be to idealists, it happens to be true on many parts of the island. And frankly, people don't hide their feelings on this. May not be my preference or yours, but feelings still exists wherein "clear" skin is seen as better.
Weird thread going on here (and definitely derailed), but I do think that its naive to say that it doesn't happen because your BF got abuse. On a different part of the island, he may have been revered.
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Re: Interracial Babies

Unfortunately, there are still is racial prejudice in Jamaica. It is manifested in different ways. I would say though, that as far as the treatment of mixed raced children goes, they seem to have a less traumatic time in Jamaica than in North America. There is still preferential treatment given to fair skinned people in Jamaica, by some.
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Ok, that's what I thought.
Irie....he hasn't only been there 6 months.. he only lives there 6 months out of the year. If I were a white girl from Canada, I certainly wouldn't be challenging a Jamaican about knowing the culture. If I were you. It looks silly. Everyone has had their own experiences. Its wrong to tell him that a Browning baby wouldn't get preferential treatment in Jamaica. You can only say that IT IS WRONG that a browning should get special treatment. but you nor he can say what treatment that baby will get. The treatment of any person whether here, there or anywhere depends largely upon the people they come in contact with. There are forward thinkers and then there are backward thinkers. Many many people in Jamaica think brownings with "pretty hair" are more special. As horrifying as that may be to idealists, it happens to be true on many parts of the island. And frankly, people don't hide their feelings on this. May not be my preference or yours, but feelings still exists wherein "clear" skin is seen as better.
Weird thread going on here (and definitely derailed), but I do think that its naive to say that it doesn't happen because your BF got abuse. On a different part of the island, he may have been revered.
Well I didnt understand what he meant by the 6 months thing.
And it wasnt Naive what I said.
Im stating truth.
And Its not just about my boyfriend.

For 21 years Ive been raised in the culture?

I guess St. Anns and St. Mary people dont have the same view on browning.

I think that this thread is just utterly disrespectful.
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Re: Interracial Babies

It is indeed disrespectful to promote, practice, accept or condone racism in any form.
It is not disrespectful to acknowledge or discuss. To acknowledge ongoing bias does not put a stamp of approval on such practices. I do admit that jt's approach is full-force. and perhaps may not agree with your "good vibes" approach. He may have a strange way of saying things, but he's got a point to some degree.
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I understand hes got a point.

But I dont think a kid would have it any better in JA than the US or here in Canada..
That was my point.
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Yes, I agree with you. Here we are , arguing about a damn non-existent baby. Hey Cutelulu.....you preggo yet? Cause we're all concerned about that baby and how its gwan be treated. Where will it live?? I, for one, am starting a college fund for that little rug rat! Our imaginary baby has to have an education. I joke.
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I understand hes got a point.

But I dont think a kid would have it any better in JA than the US or here in Canada..
That was my point.
Having not been born here, nor gown up here, you would not see how that could be. Remember also that Jamaican people are diverse. People will behave differently. Experiences will depend on which part of the island you are in too.
Those who you know, do not necessarily think or behave in the same ways as other people elsewhere in the island.
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I think JT makes some very valid points that are commonly known by many Jamaican people.
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Unfortunately, there are still is racial prejudice in Jamaica. It is manifested in different ways. I would say though, that as far as the treatment of mixed raced children goes, they seem to have a less traumatic time in Jamaica than in North America. There is still preferential treatment given to fair skinned people in Jamaica, by some.
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Having not been born here, nor gown up here, you would not see how that could be. Remember also that Jamaican people are diverse. People will behave differently. Experiences will depend on which part of the island you are in too.
Those who you know, do not necessarily think or behave in the same ways as other people elsewhere in the island.

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Well I didnt understand what he meant by the 6 months thing.
And it wasnt Naive what I said.
Im stating truth.
And Its not just about my boyfriend.

For 21 years Ive been raised in the culture?

I guess St. Anns and St. Mary people dont have the same view on browning.

I think that this thread is just utterly disrespectful.
Sorry, that statement above is a tad bid naive. How do you mean "raised in the culture"??
Living in Canada with a Jamaican relative is most certainly not equal to growing up in JA. Its simply world's apart.
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I have always heard from Jamaicans that light skinned people get preferential treatment......
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In my cousin's family, only one child could go on to college, even though two of them had finished school with good grades. The lighter skinned daughter was sent to college, as they felt "she would go further" with the education. Wasn't a secret why they sent her. Its not a "taboo" subject in Jamaican households. its discussed like "what's for dinner"?
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Sorry, that statement above is a tad bid naive. How do you mean "raised in the culture"??
Living in Canada with a Jamaican relative is most certainly not equal to growing up in JA. Its simply world's apart.
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And Theres a big Jamaican community here in Montreal.

But yet its not equal to growing up there I know this stop attacking me anyways this is retarted.
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