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Old 08-28-2007, 08:29 PM
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How do you define racism ?

Racism runs deep , as those who write and publish most if not all of the on-line dictionary gives the definition of Racialism as that of racism. Some even go futher to claim the Racialism is the English version of racism , one wonders what language the word racism belongs to then ?

The Webster New Twentieth Century unabridge second edition 1976 gave the true definitions as I have known it

Racialism:- a doctrine or feelings of racial differences or antagonisms , especially with reference to racial superiority , inferiority , or purity ;racial perjudice .

Racism:-
1. Racialism
2.program or practice of racial discrimination , segregation ,persecution and domination based on racialism

Now if you can show me instances in which blacks have segregated , persecuted and dominated whites then I will accept the idea that they are black racist ? Black bigots sure, blacks who hold prejudicial and discriminatory ideas yes - but black racist NO

If people truly understood the definition of racism , the idea purported by racist called "reversed racism" wouldbe seen forwhat it is , a perversion of the truth .
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:31 PM
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Re: How do you define racism ?

I agree with this post, Almost exactly as i posted in another thread.
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Racism runs deep , as those who write and publish most if not all of the on-line dictionary gives the definition of Racialism as that of racism. Some even go futher to claim the Racialism is the English version of racism , one wonders what language the word racism belongs to then ?

The Webster New Twentieth Century unabridge second edition 1976 gave the true definitions as I have known it

Racialism:- a doctrine or feelings of racial differences or antagonisms , especially with reference to racial superiority , inferiority , or purity ;racial perjudice .

Racism:-
1. Racialism
2.program or practice of racial discrimination , segregation ,persecution and domination based on racialism

Now if you can show me instances in which blacks have segregated , persecuted and dominated whites then I will accept the idea that they are black racist ? Black bigots sure, blacks who hold prejudicial and discriminatory ideas yes - but black racist NO

If people truly understood the definition of racism , the idea purported by racist called "reversed racism" wouldbe seen forwhat it is , a perversion of the truth .
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:45 PM
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Re: How do you define racism ?

So are they racialismists?????

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Sorry I couldn't help myself....


I believe that there are those in every kind that hate those of another kind... for whatever reason.... and I believe that hate just breeds more hate...

and those that hate will not be very happy when their lives end and they don't get to meet the maker they claim to love...

Funny how most racists I meet in the south claim to be christians.... how can you be God's child and hate anybody???? well, that is off topic and for another thread but just my buck fifty on it...
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Re: How do you define racism ?

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Racism:-
1. Racialism
2.program or practice of racial discrimination , segregation ,persecution and domination based on racialism

Now if you can show me instances in which blacks have segregated , persecuted and dominated whites then I will accept the idea that they are black racist ? Black bigots sure, blacks who hold prejudicial and discriminatory ideas yes - but black racist NO...
you are absolutely right fankster. There is racial predjudice, yes. but by that definition of racisim, no.

Thing is, the ideas that racists use to justify racism are also based on racial predjudice. So, if you imagine a country where blacks run things, those blacks holding predjudicial ideas would likely do the same.

So we need to work to stamp out hate, predjudice, AND racism in all around us. Not an acheivable task, not in my lifetime, but with a correct mind and heart we need to start somewhere.
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you are absolutely right fankster. There is racial predjudice, yes. but by that definition of racisim, no.

Thing is, the ideas that racists use to justify racism are also based on racial predjudice. So, if you imagine a country where blacks run things, those blacks holding predjudicial ideas would likely do the same.

So we need to work to stamp out hate, predjudice, AND racism in all around us. Not an acheivable task, not in my lifetime, but with a correct mind and heart we need to start somewhere.
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Re: How do you define racism ?

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you are absolutely right fankster. There is racial predjudice, yes. but by that definition of racisim, no.
Whats wrong with my definition of racism ?

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Thing is, the ideas that racists use to justify racism are also based on racial predjudice. So, if you imagine a country where blacks run things, those blacks holding predjudicial ideas would likely do the same.
Racism and its collorary are found only in xenophopic society , most Afrikan societies are welcoming of strangers .
A Typical response from racist apologist ;- blacks if given power will do the same . This is only true when Europeans are the unseen hand behind the scene .
S.Afrika , Ghana ,Namibia ,Zimbabwe etc is now being rule by blacks and what we have is the truth and reconciliation commission in which known murders walk free , so historical reality does not bear out your conjecture that blacks with power would do the same as racist Europeans have and continue to do.
Do not bury the horrible reality of the mind set creates and maintains racism , by let it seems like a natural quality common to all mankind , reserve any such statements for when racism is a distant memory , any use of such type of argument is a tacit approval for its continuance .

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So we need to work to stamp out hate, predjudice, AND racism in all around us. Not an acheivable task, not in my lifetime, but with a correct mind and heart we need to start somewhere.
And the first step is to right the wrongs that racism has fostered
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nice post...

A nice post if you want to provide the racist with the excuse to continue practicing racism ....
The unspoken fallacious logic being :- its only human nature , if not them its going to be me , so the continued practice of racism is now a security blanket for White European against socalled reverse racism.
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Re: How do you define racism ?

That's not the way I took it frankster...

to me she was saying "can't we all just get along"...

and that is the way I feel too...

To me we are all the same... skin color is just the paint on the wall...
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Re: How do you define racism ?

thankyou windypace.

Frankster, you completely read me wrong. I was agreeing with you.

The sentence meant that 'yes' there is racial prejudice, and 'no' there is no black racism by that definition. I'm not sure how to make it clearer, but my post was supporting your statement, not arguing it.

Also, saying that blacks in a similar situation could be guilty of racism IF the situation came about is in no way at all an apology for todays racists. In fact, I find it even offensive that you would compare me to an "apologist" in any way shape or form.

Predjudice is natural... it's part of human nature. It is hard to change that, but racism born of predudice is not acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated. It is a fact of life right now, but we do not have to accept it.
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Re: How do you define racism ?

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Frankster, you completely read me wrong. I was agreeing with you.

The sentence meant that 'yes' there is racial prejudice, and 'no' there is no black racism by that definition. I'm not sure how to make it clearer, but my post was supporting your statement, not arguing it.
I knew you were agree with me , but I was unsure as to your definition of racism , And still is !



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Also, saying that blacks in a similar situation could be guilty of racism IF the situation came about is in no way at all an apology for todays racists. In fact, I find it even offensive that you would compare me to an "apologist" in any way shape or form.
When the real world examples makes the proposition of "blacks with power potential racist" a lie(though not impossible ) , then to forward the idea is an attempt to obfuscate , hide or minimize the obvious reality of how racism is practice and by whom by . Spreading the guilt or sharing the blame is an apologist tactic .
My apologies for comparing you to an apologist , but if you are using their weaponry , then you must understand my assumption .

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Predjudice is natural... it's part of human nature. It is hard to change that, but racism born of predudice is not acceptable and shouldn't be tolerated. It is a fact of life right now, but we do not have to accept it.
True it is Natural and a fact of life and hence we have to accept it , anything else is to live in denial - that only helps those who profit from racism . If in a society racism is being practice it is being tolerated , as for one to be racist one needs societal and political support .
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Re: How do you define racism ?

windypace;

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That's not the way I took it frankster...
Of that I am sure . Though that is true it does not negate the fact that your good intentions , knowing or unknowing is a support for racism .

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to me she was saying "can't we all just get along"...
It is in the interest of those who are comfortable with the status quo to say "can't we all just get along" , but how can I when you are denying the fact that I am suffering under the present status quo . In short Your boot is on my throat and you are asking my not to try and breathe , as it is making you uncomfortable .

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and that is the way I feel too...
You cannot have peace and security without justice and fairness .

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To me we are all the same... skin color is just the paint on the wall...
It does not matter what people use to discriminate , what is important is that we realize that all humanity share and deserve the same rights and that what happens to one threatens us all . And that one of the best way to protect all humanity is thru justice and fairness to all regardless of differences .

So do not deny my pleas ,
recognize evaluate and act accordingly .
I wouldn't cry , if I was not hurting .
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