thank you.............................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

who educated you to call people gullible and niave for disagreeing with you?

Alex and Windy did you both miss this post or simply chose to ignore it

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Of course it does... but she also knows why... and she knows that the reason she got whipped is because SHE was bad...

When a child is bad... they need to be punished... period...

You do it your way... and I'll do it mine...

But I gaurantee that my child acts excellent for a 7 year old... does yours?

Wait I forgot... you don't have children... all your experience/knowledge came from juvenille delinquents in prison.

all of this is moot

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

the world... been there done that... too many times to count...

and have multiple t-shirts to proove it

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

No I didn't... and like I said earlier... for some kids that is great...

unfortunately for me... the only thing that gets my kids attention is a whipping...

if I take her toys away... she doesn't care... she just day dreams... then does the same bad thing over an over until I whip her...

some kids need whipping to behave... or they never learn...

others you can give them a time out and it works...

you have to use what works with your children... to ensure they grow up respectful and responsible adults

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

it took much patience and learning new skills but it works

Exactly. Its time everyone learned different ways of teaching kids there are consequences to negative behaviour. Its pretty narrow minded to trust in one way only just because the bible said, or your own parents did it and caused you no harm. How can society move forward if people are so rigidly stuck in the past.

But according to your philosophy Alex they were taught to take responsibility and taught well too as they were beaten as children

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Can i come back in?

I can still remember being hit/whipped/beaten by my parents. They weren't abusing me, they knew no better and thought that what they were doing was right. As many of you here do.

However, I've been given the chance of expanding my horizons and growing as a person in a way that there up bringing didn't allow.

From the moment my son was born I knew I would NEVER hit him. That doesn't mean he isn't extremely well behaved, polite to ALL adults and to his friends. He's never been spoilt. In fact he's grown up knowing that he can't just ask for things. I'm good at saying NO. When he asks why? I just say because "I'm Mean". This is now a thing that makes us both laugh, and yes I'm still mean.

I'm not critisising anyone for hiiting there child. I'm sure you love your children more than anything. BUT there are other ways of bringing up well behaved children. I know because I've done it.

Wait I forgot... you don't have children... all your experience/knowledge came from juvenille delinquents in prison.

so only parents have a right to an opinion on child violence?

OK it is like this... Serena this last year had a problem with talking in class...

first I just told her that she didn't need to talk in class she needed to pay attention...

Then I had her moved from where she was to another seat...

Then when that didn't work and I got another letter from the teacher...

I took ACTION... and whipped her... and told her that she needs to keep her mouth shut and pay attention in class.

Guess what, no more letters for the rest of the year...

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

again... you do what works with your child...

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

I didn't pick that up from your responses It came across to me that anyone who opposed your child rearing style was doomed to be slapped up and swore at in public by disrespecting drug taking brats

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and she started getting straight As in stead of A/B honor roll

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

Thank you. Some good points. People who hit children sometimes are just doing what theyve learned from their own family, their own culture. Perhaps this is Windy and Alex. But surely any intelligent, loving parent would be willing to listen to alternatives?