Originally Posted by mlampo

Wisewomen, looking back before you got married were there signs that things weren't what they seemed? Or did you have no clue. There are many American stories of women being conned by men also. Some admit there were signs before hand but love blinded them to the signs. Every case has to be looked at individually you can not put one label on every situation. Sometimes we go through hard times in life but did you learn something from it? Instead of dwelling on the negative help others who may not see what you can see now, looking back at your situation. But be helpful not negative about it, because that turns people of to any sincerity in your comments. Turn your situation into helping others not pushing someone away whom you may be able to help. God Bless.....

Originally Posted by shana

When 99.9% of the relationships they make with american women turn out to be frauds I would say it is endemic in their culture. YES, THERE MAYBE THE ONE OR TWO HERE AND THERE WHO ARE NOT HATEFUL TO AMERICAN PEOPLE. MAYBE.

YOU GO ASK THE IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES WHY THEY MAKE IT SO HARD FOR THEM TO UNITE WITH AMERICAN SPOUSES AND THEY WILL QUOTE THAT SAME STATISTIC - 99.9% OF THE MARRIAGES ARE FRAUDS. ASK A JUDGE WHO HEARS THE DIVORCE CASES HE'LL TELL YOU THE SAME.

I WOULD SAY THAT ANY WOMAN WHO VALUES HER LIFE, HER HARD EARNED MONEY (THEY DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH WOMEN WHO HAVE NO MONEY AND WORST OF ALL THEY PICK ON ELDERLY WOMEN - THAT IS WHY THEY ARE ESPECIALLY EVIL), AND HER MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH SHOULD STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM THEM. BECAUSE UNLIKE AN AMERICAN JERK, WHEN THEY FINALLY GET WHAT THEY WANT (GREENCARD, ALL YOUR MONEY, DESTRUCTION OF YOUR LIFE AND HEALTH), YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER - NOT EVER.

AMERICAN MEN ARE NOT DESTROYING WOMEN'S HEALTH WITH VOODOO MERCURY POISONING TO CONTROL THEM - TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. A SICK PERSON CANNOT OUT THINK A WELL ONE. AND AMERICAN MEN'S FAMILIES DON'T ALL SUPPORT THE CON LIKE THE JAMAICANS DO. SOMEONE WILL BE DECENT ENOUGH TO BREAK RANK. NOT THE JAMAICANS.

Originally Posted by bountyx

Ah bwoy ...

Originally Posted by p-bird

thank you jomosgirl and diamond girl so much. i was ashamed of what i have been through. i thought people would lauagh at me in the foroum. womens aid are giving me couselling. i tryng to move from my house but because i work full time i would have to pay full cost for a shelter which is around £400 to £500 pounds because most english shelters have on site social workers and keys works they are expensive for women who work. i have asked my housing to rehouse but they only have one property which is up the road from me which they said would not point as this would be the same area. the city council say i have to declare my self homeless they will then put me in a homeless and then they will offer me a flat(hard to lease flats) these flaths are dirty and in very bad areas.i cant bring my 5 year old and 11 months old their.
so i am trying to get a morgage but i am worried that my husband may able to get half. to be honest my life is a big mess and some times i just cry but my kids are keeping going. i dont know why he did this to me i loved him so much he was my life.

Originally Posted by wisewoman

WELCOME TO THE CLUB. THE UNBELIEVABLE CRUELTY IS WHAT SEPARATES THEM FROM THE REST OF THE MEN OF THE WORLD. AND IT JUST COMES OUT OF NOWHERE, SUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING.
My cousin married a caribbean man and he:- pretended to be an angel until he was allowed to come here
- as soon as immigration let him come and he was in the country started treating her like dirt
- she had a nervous breakdown within 2 months of his arrival
- her and her son started vomiting and being sick a lot
- she tried hard to kick him out but he conned the police into beleiving that he was the victim
- she asked him to leave but he laughed in her face and said it was his house too
- he accused her constantly of cheating and the proof was the holes in her pantyhose
- the women (all of them) in his family were encouraging him to treat her like dirt and steal everything she had to give to them
- the one he claimed was his sister was his common law wife
- she began to open his mail and discovered more plots to take everything she had once he got his greencard to set the women in his family up in the U.S.- he ran all over the neighborhood lying to the neighbors about her
- he was conning people at church to support him with immigration
- everytime she was fed up he'd start crying like a baby so she'd feel sorry for him
- once she got him out, changed the locks and he stayed downtown at the bus station 2 whole day pleading every 5 mins on the phone until she felt so bad she let him back in and within a few days he was back to his evil ways
- he started stealing from her
- one of his relatives stole her identity and began to charge in her name
- he ran up telephone bills of $15,000 in one year calling to his homeland and airline bills of $8000

he tore up the plumbing, banged his car(she helped him buy into the house)-all the hateful deceitful women in his family were calling her constantly to beg for money and claiming there children were dieing of malnutrition. the same ones that were encouraging him to destroy and steal from her(his mother, sisters)-he disappeared for days at a time
- he had american women calling the house as a decoy to keep her off the trail of him and the caribbean woman
-after all that. finally when he got that greencard he left and disappeared
Needless to say her mental and physical health are destroyed

Originally Posted by shana

When 99.9% of the relationships they make with american women turn out to be frauds I would say it is endemic in their culture. YES, THERE MAYBE THE ONE OR TWO HERE AND THERE WHO ARE NOT HATEFUL TO AMERICAN PEOPLE. MAYBE.

YOU GO ASK THE IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES WHY THEY MAKE IT SO HARD FOR THEM TO UNITE WITH AMERICAN SPOUSES AND THEY WILL QUOTE THAT SAME STATISTIC - 99.9% OF THE MARRIAGES ARE FRAUDS. ASK A JUDGE WHO HEARS THE DIVORCE CASES HE'LL TELL YOU THE SAME.

I WOULD SAY THAT ANY WOMAN WHO VALUES HER LIFE, HER HARD EARNED MONEY (THEY DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH WOMEN WHO HAVE NO MONEY AND WORST OF ALL THEY PICK ON ELDERLY WOMEN - THAT IS WHY THEY ARE ESPECIALLY EVIL), AND HER MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH SHOULD STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM THEM. BECAUSE UNLIKE AN AMERICAN JERK, WHEN THEY FINALLY GET WHAT THEY WANT (GREENCARD, ALL YOUR MONEY, DESTRUCTION OF YOUR LIFE AND HEALTH), YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER - NOT EVER.

AMERICAN MEN ARE NOT DESTROYING WOMEN'S HEALTH WITH VOODOO MERCURY POISONING TO CONTROL THEM - TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. A SICK PERSON CANNOT OUT THINK A WELL ONE. AND AMERICAN MEN'S FAMILIES DON'T ALL SUPPORT THE CON LIKE THE JAMAICANS DO. SOMEONE WILL BE DECENT ENOUGH TO BREAK RANK. NOT THE JAMAICANS.

Originally Posted by onion

can you be more specific about which island he was from please? (dear god please let me know it wasnt a jamaican, amen)
Anyway what is it about Jamaican men why women throw themself at their feet? when I first came to england I only had to open my mouth and the women were dropping their *****, What you women need to understand about men from jamaica is that not all but a lot of them only wnat to leave the island because of hardship, they love their jamaican women but will tell you what you want to hear to get you to send for them, once you do that they're not going to forget their baby mothers and will start sending money and things for them, some will want a foreign woman but others will see these women as a solution to their financial problem.

Originally Posted by onion

can you be more specific about which island he was from please? (dear god please let me know it wasnt a jamaican, amen)
Anyway what is it about Jamaican men why women throw themself at their feet? when I first came to england I only had to open my mouth and the women were dropping their *****, What you women need to understand about men from jamaica is that not all but a lot of them only wnat to leave the island because of hardship, they love their jamaican women but will tell you what you want to hear to get you to send for them, once you do that they're not going to forget their baby mothers and will start sending money and things for them, some will want a foreign woman but others will see these women as a solution to their financial problem.

Originally Posted by Johnny127

I wouldn't exactly agree that women "throw themselves" at the feet of Jamaican men.
People are often fascinated by people from other countries whose accent and (something) behavior is unique or different from what they are used to.

For example: I love to hear women with deep Spanish accent (Not Puerto Rican or Mexican...From Spain) speak English. Many women love to hear French men speak. That certainly does not amount to throwing ones's self at the others feet.

What you say about SOME Jamaican men and their devotion to their baby mothers are often true. Also the fact that many will beguile "foreign women" to achieve immigration and financial status.
But guess what?
It is NOT limited to Jamaican men.
This is systemic of people in any "less fortunate" city, state or country who see very little opportunity to otherwise improve themselves.

Everyday in America, someone marries another for financial gain and social status; and in return gives only false affection.

Yes it is true, but it happens all over the world.

Originally Posted by Johnny127

Oh My Lord!
Are they really that bad?????!!!!

Thanks for the warning, Shana.
I will definately make sure I stay away from those wretched Jamaicans.

Thank God, I'm Norweigan.