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babyloc · #76 (**permalink**) 08-30-2006, 02:12 PM

i wanted this to be posted here...posted in the wrong room...

babyloc · #77 (**permalink**) 08-30-2006, 02:13 PM

cant figrue uut how the quote thing works jsut yet

Wrathe · #78 (**permalink**) 08-30-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by p-bird

hi jolmos girl what does lorc mean forgive me still new to this

LORC stands for League Of Retarded Cupids.. We are an army who takes over ETJ temporarily to remove bad vibes by spreading love..

Allow me to demonstrate..

I Love You P-Bird!

Jomo's girl · #79 (**permalink**) 08-30-2006, 02:36 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself, Wrathe.

p-bird · #80 (**permalink**) 08-30-2006, 04:49 PM

hello wrathe thank you for explaning it to me. thank you for your love. i truly can say i met some wonderful and beautiful people. thank you again to every one for their support love you all

wisewoman · #81 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bountyx

Due to the fact that there seem to be so many foreigners who have questions, or issues with some Jamaican they know or are involved with, and who think that there's something about those persons being Jamaican that makes them that way, I'm putting up this Public Service Announcement to help y'all out.

1. No, all Jamaicans don't act like the person you're involved with. Jamaican people have different personalities and are individuals - just like people that live wherever it is you came from.

2. Not all Jamaicans take advantage of people. Some do, just as some people in the USA or Canada, or England, or France take advantage of people.

3. If you are gullible, you will find someone to take advantage of your gullibility. Learn to think and act smart with your life and relationships.

4. Yes, if you feel that your Jamaican "friend" is using you, and not treating you with respect, then for crying out loud, stap deal wid dem nuh? Weh yuh a hem an' haw 'bout eeeh? Yuh clearly know weh a gwaan. So unless yuh waan fi get played, step outa di situation nuh? Gorsh!

5. Yes, come to Jamaica, make friends, have a good time, but please, get to know people before you get deeply mixed up with them. It's just common sense.

Tanks.

That is certainly some good advice.

wisewoman · #82 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by p-bird

well i have listen to everybodys point. well i must be the biggest fool. I must be the biggest fool in the world. i was brought up in the church very strict grandparents. when i fell in love trust me i loved hIm world without end. i belived him when said he loved me because i am trusting person. we were together three years i gave him all my money everthing i had. he is now driving with a nice car. his borrowed money £10000 from the bank.

The first year was lovely but when he moved into my house he changed he became very possevie at first i thought this was cute. he then started to shout at me. I never could do things right. he then started to hit me,but he would be really sorry crying saying his stress because he has not got his stay and that his kids are suffering in jamacia. again i would give money. i am not a bad mind person and i thought if i helped him that it would make him happier. i was going to help go to college.

i recently had baby for him and we got married last year. i found that he was still in love with his baby mother he has 5 chrildren with two women in water house kingston. i planned to buy a house with him i was helping him to get his stay in england.

but he beat in my house in front of my baby daughters.he locked me in the house cut the phone and broke my mobile so i couldnt called the police. he kept punching me in my face grabbed me from the floor by my hair extenstion i was in a daze and the chrildren were crying.he kept saying look pon you you is nuthing do you know how much women want me. yuh gwen suffer fu.....duty bicth and other jamacian curse words. not going to get a penny for the baby.

i then started to vomit blood as the blood was coming through my throat. when he went to the car i ran with my baby put in her in the car i thought my other daughter was behind me she was inside the house my husband came over to me.i was scared so i locked my self in the car he told he wanted to have my top that i was wearing cause it had blood over. i went to the police station.i am not saying that all men are the same but they are some who make for bad others. my life is destroyed as i have no friend because he wouldnt allow me to go out as he belived a that lady his wife need to stay in the house. i wasnt allowed to wear any fitting clothes or no skirts. he use to say he is my friend i dont any more. my family warned me but it was like he had a spell over me.

he used to say he is the man of the house my voice is not supposed to be higher than his as he is the man.

this is true what he done to me and the reason he hit me because he wanted £250 pounds and i told him know i couldnt give him that amount as i have to pay for the rent and nusery fees this pissed of big time. i never dreamed of having another man i worshipped the ground he walked on. if i had another a man then i could understand his violence but i didnt.

i pressed charges and going through the crown court and trying to get my divorce. i am very scared because he always warned dat he would kill me if i call police on me. i am ver depressed my gp gave me 5 weeks sick leave. i fell that my life has been destoyed.i feel like a orange he ahs used and squeezed all the juices out of me and dash me a side.i have tried to keep brief. i just wanted to show people what has happend to me and to let women know if a man hits you trust me it will never stop trust me.at the moment

WELCOME TO THE CLUB. THE UNBELIEVABLE CRUELTY IS WHAT SEPARATES THEM FROM THE REST OF THE MEN OF THE WORLD. AND IT JUST COMES OUT OF NOWHERE, SUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING.
My cousin married a caribbean man and he:- pretended to be an angel until he was allowed to come here
- as soon as immigration let him come and he was in the country started treating her like dirt
- she had a nervous breakdown within 2 months of his arrival
- her and her son started vomiting and being sick a lot
- she tried hard to kick him out but he conned the police into beleiving that he was the victim
- she asked him to leave but he laughed in her face and said it was his house too
- he accused her constantly of cheating and the proof was the holes in her pantyhose
- the women (all of them) in his family were encouraging him to treat her like dirt and steal everything she had to give to them
- the one he claimed was his sister was his common law wife
- she began to open his mail and discovered more plots to take everything she had once he got his greencard to set the women in his family up in the U.S.- he ran all over the neighborhood lying to the neighbors about her
- he was conning people at church to support him with immigration
- everytime she was fed up he'd start crying like a baby so she'd feel sorry for him
- once she got him out, changed the locks and he stayed downtown at the bus station 2 whole day pleading every 5 mins on the phone until she felt so bad she let him back in and within a few days he was back to his evil ways
- he started stealing from her
- one of his relatives stole her identity and began to charge in her name
- he ran up telephone bills of $15,000 in one year calling to his homeland and airline bills of $8000

he tore up the plumbing, banged his car(she helped him buy into the house)-all the hateful deceitful women in his family were calling her constantly to beg for money and claiming there children were dieing of malnutrition. the same ones that were encouraging him to destroy and steal from her(his mother, sisters)-he disappeared for days at a time
- he had american women calling the house as a decoy to keep her off the trail of him and the caribbean woman
-after all that. finally when he got that greencard he left and disappeared
Needless to say her mental and physical health are destroyed

wisewoman · #83 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p-bird

well i have listen to everybodys point. well i must be the biggest fool. I must be the biggest fool in the world. i was brought up in the church very strict grandparents. when i fell in love trust me i loved hIm world without end. i belived him when said he loved me because i am trusting person. we were together three years i gave him all my money everthing i had. he is now driving with a nice car. his borrowed money £10000 from the bank.

The first year was lovely but when he moved into my house he changed he became very possevie at first i thought this was cute. he then started to shout at me. I never could do things right. he then started to hit me,but he would be really sorry crying saying his stress because he has not got his stay and that his kids are suffering in jamacia. again i would give money. i am not a bad mind person and i thought if i helped him that it would make him happier. i was going to help go to college.

i recently had baby for him and we got married last year. i found that he was still in love with his baby mother he has 5 chrildren with two women in water house kingston. i planned to buy a house with him i was helping him to get his stay in england.

but he beat in my house in front of my baby daughters.he locked me in the house cut the phone and broke my mobile so i couldnt called the police. he kept punching me in my face grabbed me from the floor by my hair extenstion i was in a daze and the chrildren were crying.he kept saying look pon you you is nuthing do you know how much women want me. yuh gwen suffer fu.....duty bicth and other jamacian curse words. not going to get a penny for the baby.

i then started to vomit blood as the blood was coming through my throat. when he went to the car i ran with my baby put in her in the car i thought my other daughter was behind me she was inside the house my husband came over to me.i was scared so i locked my self in the car he told he wanted to have my top that i was wearing cause it had blood over. i went to the police station.i am not saying that all men are the same but they are some who make for bad others. my life is destroyed as i have no friend because he wouldnt allow me to go out as he belived a that lady his wife need to stay in the house. i wasnt allowed to wear any fitting clothes or no skirts. he use to say he is my friend i dont any more. my family warned me but it was like he had a spell over me.

he used to say he is the man of the house my voice is not supposed to be higher than his as he is the man.

this is true what he done to me and the reason he hit me because he wanted £250 pounds and i told him know i couldnt give him that amount as i have to pay for the rent and nusery fees this pissed of big time. i never dreamed of having another man i worshipped the ground he walked on. if i had another a man then i could understand his violence but i didnt.

i pressed charges and going through the crown court and trying to get my divorce. i am very scared because he always warned dat he would kill me if i call police on me. i am ver depressed my gp gave me 5 weeks sick leave. i fell that my life has been destoyed.i feel like a orange he ahs used and squeezed all the juices out of me and dash me a side.i have tried to keep brief. i just wanted to show people what has happend to me and to let women know if a man hits you trust me it will never stop trust me.at the moment

WELCOME TO THE CLUB. THE UNBELIEVABLE CRUELTY IS WHAT SEPARATES THEM FROM THE REST OF THE MEN OF THE WORLD. AND IT JUST COMES OUT OF NOWHERE, SUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING.
My cousin married a caribbean man and he:- pretended to be an angel until he was allowed to come here
- as soon as immigration let him come and he was in the country started treating her like dirt
- she had a nervous breakdown within 2 months of his arrival
- her and her son started vomiting and being sick a lot
- she tried hard to kick him out but he conned the police into beleiving that he was the victim
- she asked him to leave but he laughed in her face and said it was his house too
- he accused her constantly of cheating and the proof was the holes in her pantyhose
- the women (all of them) in his family were encouraging him to treat her like dirt and steal everything she had to give to them
- the one he claimed was his sister was his common law wife
- she began to open his mail and discovered more plots to take everything she had once he got his greencard to set the women in his family up in the U.S.- he ran all over the neighborhood lying to the neighbors about her
- he was conning people at church to support him with immigration
- everytime she was fed up he'd start crying like a baby so she'd feel sorry for him
- once she got him out, changed the locks and he stayed downtown at the bus station 2 whole day pleading every 5 mins on the phone until she felt so bad she let him back in and within a few days he was back to his evil ways
- he started stealing from her
- one of his relatives stole her identity and began to charge in her name
- he ran up telephone bills of $15,000 in one year calling to his homeland and airline bills of $8000

he tore up the plumbing, banged his car(she helped him buy into the house)-all the hateful deceitful women in his family were calling her constantly to beg for money and claiming there children were dieing of malnutrition. the same ones that were encouraging him to destroy and steal from her(his mother, sisters)-he disappeared for days at a time
- he had american women calling the house as a decoy to keep her off the trail of him and the caribbean woman
-after all that. finally when he got that greencard he left and disappeared
Needless to say her mental and physical health are destroyed

wisewoman · #84 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p-bird

thank you jomosgirl and diamond girl so much. i was ashamed of what i have been through. i thought people would lauagh at me in the foroum. womens aid are giving me couselling. i tryng to move from my house but because i work full time i would have to pay full cost for a shelter which is around £400 to £500 pounds because most english shelters have on site social workers and keys works they are expensive for women who work. i have asked my housing to rehouse but they only have one property which is up the road from me which they said would not point as this would be the same area. the city council say i have to declare my self homeless they will then put me in a homeless and then they will offer me a flat(hard to lease flats) these flaths are dirty and in very bad areas.i cant bring my 5 year old and 11 months old their.
so i am trying to get a morgage but i am worried that my husband may able to get half. to be honest my life is a big mess and some times i just cry but my kids are keeping going. i dont know why he did this to me i loved him so much he was my life.

GET FREE OF HIM. YOU MAY NEED TO LEAVE THE STATE AS I DID. PUT AN AD IN THE PAPER THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DEBTS AND SIGNATURES ONLY. FORGET ABOUT HIM. YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HIM. YOU DIDN'T FALL IN LOVE WITH THE REAL HIM - YOU FELL IN LOVE WITH THE PERSON HE PRETENDED TO BE. THE MASK IS OFF NOW. ALL THE WOMEN IN HIS FAMILY WANTS HIM TO STEAL EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO GIVE TO THEM. I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU DIDN'T MAKE HIM A BENEFICIARY ON AN INSURANCE POLICY. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE YOUR CHILD ALONE.

YOU NEED TO GET YOURSELF TESTED FOR MERCURY POISONING SO THAT YOU CAN TRY TO GET PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY WELL. READ BELOW:
In the United States, certain Afro-Caribbean and Latin American traditions, including Santeria, Palo, voodoo, and Espiritismo, incorporate the use of elemental mercury. Uses include sprinkling mercury on the floor of a home or car, burning it in a candle, and mixing it with perfume. Metallic mercury is available at almost all of the 15 botanicas visited in New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, but botanica personnel often deny having mercury for sale when approached by outsiders to these religions.
Mercury is extremely poisonous and extremely toxic. Bad for people and bad for the environment.” When probed further about concerns people have about mercury, he added, “It’s like mercury is a heavy metal. It’s like mercury is an extremely toxic metal. So yeah. And you know it’s like lead in paint, there are all sorts of problems with mercury.” He said he did not know any specific symptoms that can result from mercury use, “But I know that death is one and madness is another, like mad as a hatter.

wisewoman · #85 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DiamondGirl

Oh wow...keep your head up! we'll help you in the humor department on ETJ!! It is hard right now...but there is always a light at the end of the tunnel! And...everything happens for a reason...you just dont see it yet!

I have an idea of what kind of man you ended up with..I was just lucky enough to see it early. I was dating a JA man from Ochi for about a year before I fully realised and saw what he was like. He was a real charmer, very nice body, great at many things...except was very over protective. At first is was cute and I admire how close he was...but then it started to become to much. On my last visit with him we got into an argument cause I left to go for a walk by myself due to an earlier arguement. I was trying to clear my head and needed my space. Needless to say...he did not like that and out of anger threw me down on the bed and started to rape me...thank god it didn't go that far though..I think he stopped cause he saw the fear in my eyes and stopped. Being by myself in a different country and wanting to end things on a positive note...I stayed and pretended to be happy and then finally left and never looked back!

SMART GIRL. WISH I HAD DONE THAT BUT I WAS IN LALA LAND JUST LIKE JOMO AND HE WAS AN EXTREMELY GOOD CON ARTIST. I AM STILL PAYING FOR THAT MISTAKE 13 YEARS LATER. BEEN WITH A WHITE MAN EVERY SINCE THAT HAPPENED TO ME. FOR SOME REASON I COULDN'T STAND MY AMERICAN BROTHERS AFTER THAT HAPPENED EVENTHOUGH I KNOW IN MY MIND THAT, THAT IS UNFAIR. I NEVER HAD A BLACK AMERICAN MAN TREAT ME IN SUCH AN AWFUL MANNER. THEY ACT LIKE UNCIVILIZED IN-HUMANS WHEN THAT MASK IS OFF. OH, I MET AN MARRIED MINE IN OCHO HA HA. MIGHT HAVE BEEN HIM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. LOL I DID KICK HIS ASS IN DIVORCE COURT, HOWEVER.

HE LEFT ME WITH NOTHING - NOT EVEN THE CLOTHES ON HIS BACK WHEN I GOT THROUGH WITH HIM.

LadyH · #86 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 08:52 AM

P Bird I'm so sorry to hear of your misfortune.... life is not always fair......keep your head up, things are going to be alright.

Wise woman.....uncivilized???? I could mention a thing or two about backward and uncivilized people, but I am not going to turn this into another bash thread. However I will say this, this site is a Caribbean site and not all of us.... (man and/or woman), are like the person/s described above, so when a blanket statement is made like that in which you have expressed, (see quote in bold) "they act like un-civilized in-humans", it is offensive.

There is good and bad in every country, Island and place..... do not paint everyone with the same brush. Better yet, I have a question.... if all of your experiences, have been so horibble... and we Jamaicans are so bad, and we take advantage...and you never hear as much, ( by no means am I down playing the injustice that some have been through by falling in love with the wrong person), why r u on a Jamaican site???

You people come on here, make these statements and for what??? Only to add provocation to the lives of those that come to the site, to enjoy each others company and share what we know, love about Jamaica...ergo the title EVERYTHING JAMAICA....

unna behave and go sit down....... **sucks teeth and walks away**

** comes back** BTW... they are members of ETJ that are married to Caribbean men .... and guess what .....they don't beat, take advantage or intentionally hurt their significant other.

P-Bird darling ... please do not take this personal as this by no means was directed at what you shared, you are not alone in having been in abusive relationship, whilst I have had no personal experience I can still sympathize and support you. One luv to you baby.

****going walking down the road to go talk to Alex, Jamcan, Jomo G, D and Ghetto Gurl**

Damn out a order...

Groovy144 · #87 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bountyx

Due to the fact that there seem to be so many foreigners who have questions, or issues with some Jamaican they know or are involved with, and who think that there's something about those persons being Jamaican that makes them that way, I'm putting up this Public Service Announcement to help y'all out.

1. No, all Jamaicans don't act like the person you're involved with. Jamaican people have different personalities and are individuals - just like people that live wherever it is you came from.

2. Not all Jamaicans take advantage of people. Some do, just as some people in the USA or Canada, or England, or France take advantage of people.

3. If you are gullible, you will find someone to take advantage of your gullibility. Learn to think and act smart with your life and relationships.

4. Yes, if you feel that your Jamaican "friend" is using you, and not treating you with respect, then for crying out loud, stap deal wid dem nuh? Weh yuh a hem an' haw 'bout eeeh? Yuh clearly know weh a gwaan. So unless yuh waan fi get played, step outa di situation nuh? Gorsh!

5. Yes, come to Jamaica, make friends, have a good time, but please, get to know people before you get deeply mixed up with them. It's just common sense.

Tanks.

Ahhhhhh.....Memories.....I miss Bounty...one of the true sensible voices of reasons that used to be here.

ShyCutieGirl · #88 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 10:30 AM

Wisewomen, looking back before you got married were there signs that things weren't what they seemed? Or did you have no clue. There are many American stories of women being conned by men also. Some admit there were signs before hand but love blinded them to the signs. Every case has to be looked at individually you can not put one label on every situation. Sometimes we go through hard times in life but did you learn something from it? Instead of dwelling on the negative help others who may not see what you can see now, looking back at your situation. But be helpful not negative about it, because that turns people of to any sincerity in your comments. Turn your situation into helping others not pushing someone away whom you may be able to help. God Bless.....

JASpice · #89 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wisewoman

SMART GIRL. WISH I HAD DONE THAT BUT I WAS IN LALA LAND JUST LIKE JOMO AND HE WAS AN EXTREMELY GOOD CON ARTIST. I AM STILL PAYING FOR THAT MISTAKE 13 YEARS LATER. BEEN WITH A WHITE MAN EVERY SINCE THAT HAPPENED TO ME. FOR SOME REASON I COULDN'T STAND MY AMERICAN BROTHERS AFTER THAT HAPPENED EVENTHOUGH I KNOW IN MY MIND THAT, THAT IS UNFAIR. I NEVER HAD A BLACK AMERICAN MAN TREAT ME IN SUCH AN AWFUL MANNER. THEY ACT LIKE UNCIVILIZED IN-HUMANS WHEN THAT MASK IS OFF. OH, I MET AN MARRIED MINE IN OCHO HA HA. MIGHT HAVE BEEN HIM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. LOL I DID KICK HIS ASS IN DIVORCE COURT, HOWEVER.

HE LEFT ME WITH NOTHING - NOT EVEN THE CLOTHES ON HIS BACK WHEN I GOT THROUGH WITH HIM.

It is very sad and awful what has happened to you. But, please do not turn into a racist cause of this. Any other man (white, hispaniac, or whatever) is capable of those horrific actions. I am lucky to have noticed with my ex early and to be smart enough to get out. Maybe because of me seeing both my sisters endure abuse for years has made me much more aware...I dunno....but, it still isnt right to judge others. Anyhow...even though this man wasn't good for me ...it has not made me hate a culture...I am currently in one of the most loving relationships with a different Jamaican. Someone full of tons of love and one that would never hurt a fly. One that is stable, works 6 days a week, never asks for anything, but rather gives, etc.......

So please...do not hate nor pass that hate on, cause it's just not right. Just like LadyH has mentioned...there are many incredible Jamaicans out there and this is a board full of love for the jamaican culture and it's peeps.

God Bless...and please find some peace.

p-bird · #90 (**permalink**) 09-09-2006, 08:15 PM

To all of the ladies who have shared the experiences thank you, thanks for helping me through this awful time your messages really has helped me. It has made me stronger. not every jamacian men beat up their women but it really hurts when your own black man treats his wife like **** instead of his queen. domestic violence is in all races. To wise woman i am so sorry for your pain thanks for sharing keep your head.well done for getting on with life nuff respect.

To lady h thank you for your beautiful words. life at the moment is a mess even though i am going through stress, divorce and court cases, husband still saying not guilty self defence at the hearing waiting for trial.Even though i had two black eyes,split lip,both sides of my face swollen,nose bleeding, scars on arm,and hair pulled from scalp,my blood over my clothes he is a big joke i have to laugh or i would be constantly crying .

But let me tell you this i feel free i feel like a prisoner let out jail because i can wear make up now,wear fashionable clothes, i do not have to account for be late 5 minutes late, been hit slapped dragged being told i am nuting i feel free because he cant hurt me any more. i thank god that i am alive i thank god that i am not mad walking on road with my head tied with a scarve begging money. i really believe that their is a god and he is not sleeping. husband couldnt keep up with his pretence god revealed him. i went through this for a reason and i am going to learn from it and i am going tell my two beautiful babies that no man has the right to put the hands on them i want to break the cycle of abuse. i love every one on this site my father,grand parents are jamacian so i cant hate jamacians i just hate my husband for what he has done to me and the kids. hope every one understands god bless you all