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Old 11-14-2008, 09:26 PM
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Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

Yes I know you all THINK you've seen this thread before. But I did a search and the only "unconditional" thread was on friendship.

Anyways my mama and me spent a nice afternoon together today. Then we watched Oprah LOL. Oprah talked about her love for her dog was unconditional

In the commercial break my mom told me she thought that "unconditional love" was an oxymoron because without the unconditional part, there is NO LOVE. I told her to please explain. And basically, her explanation was just that. If there are conditions, then you really don't love the person.

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Old 11-14-2008, 10:34 PM
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

WOW.. I gotta think about that one because that means I dont love many people in my life.....
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:51 PM
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

yah... I guess I kind of agree... except that now that I am old and cynical... I don't think I can love totally unconditionally... I would like to... I've certainly loved people that don't have all the things on my "list" ... but ugh. I don't know. What the hell does it mean to love without conditions?????? I guess I can't really answer because I don't really know what it MEANS!!!!
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

To say you would love unconditionally is to say that you would love no matter what the person does.

I don't believe in unconditional love. I'm not going to love a guy who starts to cheat on me, or who decides to slap me around or verbally disrespect me. Would you?

Unconditional love sounds nice but really is not rational in real life. Maybe the love for a parent to child can be unconditional. But to a spouse? No way. Had this conversation with the minister of my church when trying to decide how much bs I could tolerate in my marriage...............

Some who prefer to turn a blind eye to unacceptable things that are going on in their marriage might call that unconditional love, but if they're doing it to keep the peace and not deal with the situation then I'd call that a cop out, not love.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:27 AM
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

I dont even know if I choose who to love anymore
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To say you would love unconditionally is to say that you would love no matter what the person does.
That was kinda my question to my mom too. In my eyes, this kind of "no matter what" love only applies to children. I would/do love my son no matter what he doesn, even if I don't like him at times.
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

I think your mom is right. Real love...unconditional love..has no strings attached, no conditions and terms.

See if you truly love someone....you can't just make that go away, no matter what happens.

Now here is where people get confused...if a man cheats on you, and you really love him....do you just get over it and keep going because after all...if you love him...there should be no conditions??

Nope...I broke up with my ex of five years for cheating. But just because I broke up with him, doesn't mean my love stopped!! I will always love him ...however my love has changed to a different form of love...but still there..even beneath the dislike!

I believe love changes form when people do horrible things. If my brother snapped and killed my whole family...I would probably hate him on the surface...but my love for him would still exist underneath because I don't believe love can just be turned off and on like a light switch!

I think you can fall out of love with someone..then your love just changes to care..the kind you have for a friend..or someone in your past. This is what happens when people have friendly divorces I think!!
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

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Yes I know you all THINK you've seen this thread before. But I did a search and the only "unconditional" thread was on friendship.

Anyways my mama and me spent a nice afternoon together today. Then we watched Oprah LOL. Oprah talked about her love for her dog was unconditional

In the commercial break my mom told me she thought that "unconditional love" was an oxymoron because without the unconditional part, there is NO LOVE. I told her to please explain. And basically, her explanation was just that. If there are conditions, then you really don't love the person.

What say you??
I believe that love itself is unconditional, however how you allow yourself to be treated by those who profess to love you, should not be without condition and vise versa, otherwise you can become a loved door mat, which is totally contradictory.
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

I know this kind of love exists. I agree with what Ash said. I know that this kind of love is rare. but my love for Danville is purely unconditional. It will never go away. I know now that he and i cannot be together, but the love is still there it always will be. You can love some one and not tolerate unacceptable behavior. I have not stopped loving D just accepted that he is who he is and for me that means I have to move on, but the love still ever strong. It was only when i accepted that i don't have to stop the love that I was actually able to move on.
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

I do believe in unconditional love... I do believe that you can love someone unconditionally...

answer me this... say you love someone and they do cheat on you... you may very well leave them... but if you really loved them... then that love still remains... it stays a little scar on your heart for life... and if you think about it... you still love all the things about that person that made you love them in the first place... that is unconditional love.
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Re: Does LOVE = UNCONDITIONAL??

Okay. After reading all the posts after my "what is unconditional love"... I realize... it's exactly what I thought... that you love no matter what...

i have this kind of love for my family. I love them... i don't always LIKE them... but I will always love them.

I think I used to have this kind of love for some of the men I was involved with... but now that I am more wise, some might say cynical, jaded, or skeptical, others might say pragmatic, realistic... I believe it's possible to LOVE someone despite all... BUT... that doesn't necessarily mean that they are good person for you to be with...

For example... Omar. I loved him unconditionally... it didn't matter that he made hardly any money, wasn't as educated as I am, lived 3500 miles away... I loved him. And he died, knowing that even though we were no longer "together" that I would always LOVE him.

Nico, he did some downright ****ty things to me... but I still love him. And I don't like him very much, but I still feel LOVE for him, even though I don't want to be with him.

That is probably what unconditional love is when it comes to loving someone romantically. But Kris...I don't think I believe in unconditional love ... that is something of romance novels and fairytales for me. It's just not practical.
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Okay. After reading all the posts after my "what is unconditional love"... I realize... it's exactly what I thought... that you love no matter what...

i have this kind of love for my family. I love them... i don't always LIKE them... but I will always love them.

I think I used to have this kind of love for some of the men I was involved with... but now that I am more wise, some might say cynical, jaded, or skeptical, others might say pragmatic, realistic... I believe it's possible to LOVE someone despite all... BUT... that doesn't necessarily mean that they are good person for you to be with...

For example... Omar. I loved him unconditionally... it didn't matter that he made hardly any money, wasn't as educated as I am, lived 3500 miles away... I loved him. And he died, knowing that even though we were no longer "together" that I would always LOVE him.

Nico, he did some downright ****ty things to me... but I still love him. And I don't like him very much, but I still feel LOVE for him, even though I don't want to be with him.

That is probably what unconditional love is when it comes to loving someone romantically. But Kris...I don't think I believe in unconditional love ... that is something of romance novels and fairytales for me. It's just not practical.
perfect definition... that is what I think of unconditional love.

Nice post MissB...
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perfect definition... that is what I think of unconditional love.

Nice post MissB...
Thanks Windy... I only needed 39 years to finally "get it"...lol.
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well it took me 32 so I am not far behind you
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well it took me 32 so I am not far behind you
Well... those are 7 very important years!! Good for us.
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