Cat I got your bak girlfriend, I agree a 100% with what you are saying, my experience is the same and my kids will be trained the way I was.

Fellas, I am not saying that a child should be spanked for every mistake or gross mistake either, but when its appropriate its neccessary.

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All of you make good points as to disciplining your child. I believe every child is different and demands a certain level of discipline that works for them. My daughter is 3 now and I hate beating her because i knew when i use to get spanking from my parents. I do spank her when she deserves it, but before, it never use to work. It got to a point where spanking did not work for her,cause she is tough. However, I had to find another way and so now at three, she has three choices of disciopline......TIME OUT IN THE CORNER/IN THE DARK
THE BELT
or the 123 METHOD.....
So despite all the methods you guys say.....I believe from my experience, especially in raising my daughter and seeing the difference in discipling my nephew.... every child is different....
so discipline them accordingly..some need a little talk, some need POWPOW...some need time out and others need a warning....it all depends. The one thing i do find does not work...it may work temporarily is screaming at your child....they scream at you or others too. And that is not healthy. KC, I agree with you at talking back to your parents...teeth would be down the belly or trying to hit them back, would be 6 feet under or a broken body part. Each culture is different. i am sorry though, I do hate the European way of just letting your kid go by...sdtop johnny....sit here or no icecream.......You guys should watch BET comic veiw,....now that is funny. I cant stand rude kids, thats why mine has to be mannerly and well trained...like I was......I am sure you will all agree.
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matrix well said and in accordance with what we are all been saying. It depends on the nature of the offense and the child involved.

This is a really great topic. Enlightening.

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to cat, jamcan, and any other single working mom in ETJ:

i gotta give you a big up for doing da dang thang! i've experienced being a single working mother for only one week and it really is tough! i already knew that it would be hard but now i know it firsthandedly. i'm sooo tired! lol

she came into my room early one morning because she was scared and i let her get in my bed. i put my arm around her and she fell asleep immediately. i was so overwhelmed at the thought of me being able to help a child feel safe and meet all her needs that i cried. it was such a good feeling.

But you can do it TIA. Sometimes I can't believe that I've made it through 11 1/2 years of it but I have and now I'm at the part where I can lay down and have a nap when I'm tired, I have a full time buddy, not a dependent. It is so great, but yes tiring.

I would have to say that the only bad thing about being a single mom is only one income. That has been the biggest challenge the whole time is making it on one income. But I still have a roof over my head, drive a brand new car and travel to JA whenever I want so it can't be that bad! You're doing a GREAT thing TIA.

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Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.

Your right Matrix, European kids are rude and show now respect,i think its a part of the society. Parents are to stressfull, both have jobs to pay off their way to expensive second house in France or the droptop BMW, in the mean time the kids grow up in daycare.....

LAWD.Matrix i wish i could watch some BET right now...how do i get it up here, anybody in UK have it? Then i could get it in Amsterdam .... or do i need a dish?

'u cant put more days in yor life but u can put more life in your days'

Check Out Tha Link Below

Love Your Kids? Prove it by beating them website

Kinda funny guys

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Fransisca, I never thought that you guys may not have had BET...maybe you do need the dish....you should check it out.

I do notice too that these European Parents, they all prefer to work, vacation or go out without the kids and then want to pay a caribbean person to watch their rude ass kids...They dont discipline them and when someone else does...they go...I have you on camera that you were hitting my child or something negative to that matter. Or call the cops that you are abusing your child or theirs.

That is why half of these kids after they grow up they become ungrateful and place their parents in a nursing home and take all the money, hardly go and see them, unless it is on special holidays like mother's day and father's day etc. Its so heartbreaking.

They are rich and have no love for each other. Kids cant wait till they die. All the kids say is I would have loved your attention and time and some love when i was young. You notice they call the babysitter or nanny , Mommy...

It is so sad. I feel no remorse for these European parents. My skin bites e to see a rude child. My daughter knows not to play with me. Her dad spoils her and I spoil her, I am the disciplinarian, cause her dad says he cannot stand the crying, so he gives in. i tell him you better not go back on what i say.

You have to be tough in raising a child, and know that in the long run it will pay off. It takes four main things:
Lots of LOve
Lots of Discipline
Lots of Time
Lots of Patience

You can buy all the fancy stuff to butter them up, but if its not these four items together, they will be a rotten egg.

My daughter was getting out of hand and I had to step up. She is three and she knows when I say...Let me get up...she knows what it means...She shapes up!!!!!!!!

HELLS NO I HAVE 2 YOUT AND MEK MI TELL YUH SEY

THERE IS NO GREATER GIFT IN THE WORLD MAN COULD ASK THAN TO TAKE PART IN GIVING LIFE.....TO CARRY A HUMAN BEING IN YOUR BELLY

IS HARD YES AND STRESS ON THE BODY,BUT ITS GIFT YOUR GIVEN FROM GOD AND NO GIFT IS GREATER THAN LIFE IT SELF.....I THANK GOD

EVERYDAY FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY....BEING A MOTHER IS BLESSING AS WITH BEING A FATHER

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I like the original topic and what it turned in to..........

My answer is no, I do not feel biologically cheated in life.....

To the disciplining the kids thing... I have whipped my daughter probably 6 times in her life. Now when we would be in public and she would throw a temper tantrum, I would just walk off and leave her laying there on the floor. Walk around the corner to where I could watch her to make sure no one grabbed her and just wait. Eventually, she would stop crying and start looking for me. She would get up and walk to the end of the isle and there I would be. I would simply ask her, "Are you through now? Are you ready to ask for what you want like a big girl? You may or may not get it but throwing a temper tantrum will get you no where but all alone." Soon, she stopped throwing them at all because it didn't get her anything but a headache from crying.

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"Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies"

Proverbs 31; 10

I love what God made me----I am a strong Black Woman who has gone through 4 c-sections and raising 4 children and 5 grandchildren---6 boys (a set of identical twins) and 3 girls---My daughter and I was pregnant together and our sons are 3 months apart and then the twins came shortly after that so I had 4 babies in pampers. I also have one step daughter and one god daughter--I just love children....

Feel cheated Never! because I still look like I am twenty-with young men running to me and old men running away from me--I still have that fire spirit that an old man can't handle and a young man keep up with......I love the life I live and I am going to live the life I love.....

I don't feel cheated. Those things are a part of life and part of what a makes me a woman.

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No - I don't feel cheated
Menses and Pregnancy are what make me a woman...
The pain of both help to build my character, help to strengthen me
Both allow me to, perhaps, be MORE than a man.... never less

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Jamaican Men! I applaude you! coming from this American black Woman----I have seen Jamaican men in Jamaica and alot of them--who stand up and be father's to their children in every way. Not only that---Jamaican men will take on the role doing what women can do--You will cook--wash--clean--and be both mother and father to your children--- giving discipline when needed --and then go out and buy clothes for them--- I have seen this with my own eyes---Jamaican men are so amazing! "Peace and Blessing Star"