I said, in life outside of ETJ we ALL deal with racism, I have dealed with it until even a couple of months ago..Dont for one second think that it doesnt kill me to see people suffer from racism.. However in this thread people that are a part of ETJ are acting like they need to defend the color of dem skin towards anudda...Which I dont see the need of... and that is MY opinion... I wonder why evertyime I open my mouth and say sumthing I get responses as..This site is full of your personal issues, shall I proceed through each and ask you to justify why you feel how you do, and if I did how would that make you feel? I didnt tell you what to feel, I told you how I feel.. I wonder how you would feel in case my daddy would have been blond with blue eyes and I put White & proud in my siggy, obviously that would have made me a racist.
Again, I am not saying HOW you should feel but on ETJ I cant relate... I feel as if the whites are resented and I do not like it. In life outside of ETJ I would kick anybody's @ss who would try and put u down, for ur color or for ANYTHING at all... But on ETJ I just dont get it..
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I said, in life outside of ETJ we ALL deal with racism, I have dealed with it until even a couple of months ago..Dont for one second think that it doesnt kill me to see people suffer from racism.. However in this thread people that are a part of ETJ are acting like they need to defend the color of dem skin towards anudda...Which I dont see the need of... and that is MY opinion... I wonder why evertyime I open my mouth and say sumthing I get responses as..This site is full of your personal issues, shall I proceed through each and ask you to justify why you feel how you do, and if I did how would that make you feel? I didnt tell you what to feel, I told you how I feel.. I wonder how you would feel in case my daddy would have been blond with blue eyes and I put White & proud in my siggy, obviously that would have made me a racist.
Again, I am not saying HOW you should feel but on ETJ I cant relate... I feel as if the whites are resented and I do not like it. In life outside of ETJ I would kick anybody's @ss who would try and put u down, for ur color or for ANYTHING at all... But on ETJ I just dont get it..
GG you are totally missing the point, please go back and read Windys response if you are able to accept that easier than you can comming from me.
........I beleive that EVERYONE should be proud of who they are, I have no issue with anyone having a signature that tells people that they are proud of their colour or heriratge.....and if I did I would be asking myself why?......you seemed to have now turned this discussion around from my specific post that you made reference to, to my signature......and quite frankly, I am not going to expain that to you.....who has issue with my signature........ASK YOURSELVES WHY.....SIMPLE!
I am not going to own what you feel on ETJ......If you feel the whites are resented because I am proud of my blackness......deal with it, that is your issue not mine.
If my responses are experienecd as being defensive that is because I do not have the right to post my experience and be honnest, I must post a GG version or a LS, or JG version that folk are comfortable with, well its not going to happen, not on my watch. My ancestors lost and continue to loose their iives for this issue, and I must water down my responses, for folk who in the next breath when it suits them, they harp on about freedom of speech, and not underminding their experiences?......as stated before, this is the 21st Century and I refuse to be shackled!
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The implications of this post, given that it is referenced to an alleged thread I made, is that I have tendency to post discussions that are 'watered down' to suit the readers and that I 'harp on about freedom of speech'..... an implication I find extremely offensive given that by way of your posts, you are expecting the same right!
Freedom of speech gives YOU the right to discuss matters close to YOUR heart...
Freedom of speech gives GG the right to comment on / say she disagrees with YOUR post(s)...
Freedom of speech gave ME the right to stay silent in what I felt was a barrage of aggression which IMO reinforced the stereotype of the angry black woman...
And Freedom of speech gives me the right to change my mind and comment!!!
In the same way you jumped on GG regarding her post and advising that your post related personally to you, so you must accept elements of mine relate to me...
My characteristics appear to be a much softer one to yours, primarily because I am sure you and I have not had the same experiences... as I have said in the past, until I hit my 40th year I had NEVER experienced racism... and now I only get it in trickles...
Yes I am affected by it but not to the level you have so obviously my reaction will be different... but does that make your reaction better... I THINK NOT!!
You say this is the 21st century and you refuse to be shackled...??? IMO your own words & actions are shackling you.... no-one elses...
To quote your own words "deal with it.... that is your issue not mine!!"
Give me the respect that I have always given to you 1stP!!!
The implications of this post, given that it is referenced to an alleged thread I made, is that I have tendency to post discussions that are 'watered down' to suit the readers and that I 'harp on about freedom of speech'..... an implication I find extremely offensive given that by way of your posts, you are expecting the same right!
Freedom of speech gives YOU the right to discuss matters close to YOUR heart...
Freedom of speech gives GG the right to comment on / say she disagrees with YOUR post(s)...
Freedom of speech gave ME the right to stay silent in what I felt was a barrage of aggression which IMO reinforced the stereotype of the angry black woman...
And Freedom of speech gives me the right to change my mind and comment!!!
In the same way you jumped on GG regarding her post and advising that your post related personally to you, so you must accept elements of mine relate to me...
My characteristics appear to be a much softer one to yours, primarily because I am sure you and I have not had the same experiences... as I have said in the past, until I hit my 40th year I had NEVER experienced racism... and now I only get it in trickles...
Yes I am affected by it but not to the level you have so obviously my reaction will be different... but does that make your reaction better... I THINK NOT!!
You say this is the 21st century and you refuse to be shackled...??? IMO your own words & actions are shackling you.... no-one elses...
To quote your own words "deal with it.... that is your issue not mine!!"
Give me the respect that I have always given to you 1stP!!!
I'll be honest Jel I have only read the 1st paragrapgh of your above post, because I am simply not going there!.......It has nothing to do with you, it has to do with my responses, as I thought I had made perfectly clear.....please go back and read what I said.
I'll be honest Jel I have only read the 1st paragrapgh of your above post, because I am simply not going there!.......It has nothing to do with you, it has to do with my responses, as I thought I had made perfectly clear.....please go back and read what I said.
And to be equally honest with you 1stP.... not reading my post gives you no reason to say you are simply not going there as your post becomes groundless!!
I have read and absorb this entire thread because I find it interesting and that gives me the ability to comment where I chose to.... no reason to go back and read jack!!
Do me the same courtesy you are expecting me to extend to you!
Listen up everyone. No one's answers need to be watered down. But everyone's posts need to be respected. Its how they feel and no one can change that.
SO instead of picking on each other, like someone said....suck it up and deal with it! I'm tired of everyone telling everyone else how they should feel.
And to be equally honest with you 1stP.... not reading my post gives you no reason to say you are simply not going there as your post becomes groundless!!
I have read and absorb this entire thread because I find it interesting and that gives me the ability to comment where I chose to.... no reason to go back and read jack!!
Do me the same courtesy you are expecting me to extend to you!
See what you want to see Jel.... and read into what you want to, at no time did I make any reference to the subject matter of the thread or anyone elses responses therein, I made reference to my responses and how they are receieved by other specific members....How that translate to you.....I really dont get it.....but hey its an eye opener for me I guess.
Listen up everyone. No one's answers need to be watered down. But everyone's posts need to be respected. Its how they feel and no one can change that.
SO instead of picking on each other, like someone said....suck it up and deal with it! I'm tired of everyone telling everyone else how they should feel.
Stop bickering!
Carry on....
I have not been picking on anyone JC....to the contrary what I have been constantly made to do is defend my entries, neither have I told anyone how they must feel..... I have reiterated I, MY ME through out, and i'll continue to defend my posts within the rules of ETJ.
See what you want to see Jel.... and read into what you want to, at no time did I make any reference to the subject matter of the thread or anyone elses responses therein, I made reference to my responses and how they are receieved by other specific members....How that translate to you.....I really dont get it.....but hey its an eye opener for me I guess.
Like I've said - I respond as and when I choose to.... I chose to respond directly to your message because it contained direct references to comments I had made in the very recent past and in doing so negated me and my beliefs....
I chose not to make 'references' but to come direct to the one I felt was my antagoniser.... always the best way that way everyone has full knowledge rather than implied...
Like you I can say I really don't get why YOU don't get it... you are asking for a politeness and honesty you are not willing to extend to others... come on 1stP - come outta the closet... let it be an eye opener indeed....
Like I've said - I respond as and when I choose to.... I chose to respond directly to your message because it contained direct references to comments I had made in the very recent past and in doing so negated me and my beliefs....
I chose not to make 'references' but to come direct to the one I felt was my antagoniser.... always the best way that way everyone has full knowledge rather than implied...
Like you I can say I really don't get why YOU don't get it... you are asking for a politeness and honesty you are not willing to extend to others... come on 1stP - come outta the closet... let it be an eye opener indeed....
Ok Jel can you show me what it is in my post that you make reference to above.
I saw all the video of "A girl like me" MissB. Was really sad and made me kinda angry that these girls have so little encouragement to love themselves...especially on the doll one.
You all attacking 1st up in here aint good. IMO she isnt on a resent white people tip on putting down this or that..she is bigging herself, her history and her culture up!!!
What's wrong with that? It is really not down to her if that makes other people feel bad or insecure about themselves.
If the kids in the video had the self-belief of 1st or a mentor like 1stP then there would be no "A girl like me video"
Not once has she put anyone down in this thread ...only defend her right to feel good and proud of who she is.
I think you should lay off the lady and spend less time beating her down and maybe spend more of the time bigging urself up.
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