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Old 01-18-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: 66 year old Romanian woman has given birth

What really is the bone of contention with that woman giving birth? Is she really selfish for wanting what millions of women have wanted?

Yes Bounty ,she is selfish cause yu don't make a child for yu , i mean it's not like buying something that yu want, she knew that there was a lot of risks for the babies to die but she didn't care, and now one of the baby died and the other one is suffering and may also die.Yu don't make a baby for yourself, you are giving life and yu must protect that life, give good education, affection and care : that's the real , true love .
If she wasn't so selfish she wouldn't have taken so much risks with the life of babies, and would worry about the future of those children knowing that she probably won't live long enough give them an education , love and care what they deserve. A child need a mother and a father , i didn't hear about father neither.

Yes the devil is active, but he isn't more powerful than God, and he cannot do anything that God doesn't allow to happen - no matter how terrible it may seem. And yes, in the end, the devil does lose and God and His people are victorious. That's why I take the view that if God allowed it to happen, there must be a reason, and in the long run, He's still in control.[/quote]


We have a different point of view , you think that god allows everything to happen and i don't if i resume.

God has given his law to follow and live in righthousness in the bible ,he talked to Moïse and gave him the "ten commandement" , now if he says that man shall not kill that means, that he won't stop man from killing another man but that it's a capital sin and that the murderer will be judge and will burn in hell for that crime he comitted. but that doe'snt mean that if you kill someone ,there was a reason why you did it and that god didn't stop you because of that reason .
I understand your point of view cause yes he allows we to live and also to live in sin but that doesn't mean that because he allows those things to happen that he does agree nor support bad things that are happening in the world.
He doesn't agree with killing innocent people, with injustice ,ok those things do happen everyday everywhere and he allows it to happen but that doesn't mean that it's not an abomination to him,right ?
Your last argument is dangerous and very fatalist '' if god allowed it to happen there must be a reason'' , then you think that if the nazi killed 6 millions jews , there must be a such a good reason to allow such a slaughter?
Do yu think there is a reason for a baby to be raped or killed by a bomb ?
i could ask you plenty questions like that but i know you understand what i'm saying so i don't have to go further .
The problem is that if you think that way, then you would have think that god allowed the nazi to killed millions of jews so why fight against dem to stop it or same thing with the slavery, why fight to stop it if god allowed it to happen; you understand how thinking like that is fatalist and dangerous.

We must fight against evil and not only look and say :"after all god allowed it to happen", we have to make a better world for our children and i personally think that thos experience and manipulation on foetus are not contributing to a better world for tomorrow.
And i repeat that in this case she should have adopted a child long time ago instead of playing with life and future of babies at 66 year's old.

Bless up!
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