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Originally Posted by Dreadlion
Bountyx I've read many of your comments and was agree with most of the things you said, but this time not.
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No worries. That just means we can have a spirited discussion.
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Originally Posted by Dreadlion
I think you should not compare teens having babies with that old woman, cause for most of the teens who have children they didn't choose to have a child at 13 or 15 year, some didn't know about sex and contraception other were raped by family or "friends" , and the others who wanted to have a baby to play with were just irresponsible ,so i don't think you can make that comparison.
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Ok, let's break it down. What are the issues surrounding this woman having a baby at 66 and those surrounding teenage mothers?
1. Health of the child and the mother:
She was to have twins, 1 died, 1 lived. Because of her age, there were risks to the health of the children.
Teenage mothers also face significant risks of problems with themselves and the babies (
See this article )
2. Motivations/ reasons for having the child:
This woman just wanted children. She wanted them badly enough to seek fertility treatment at a late stage in her life. Their are some teenage girls who just want children badly enough to go out and actively seek to get pregnant at such an early stage in their lives. Not all are "innocent" or uninformed about sexual matters.
3. Mechanisms of getting the child:
This woman took fertility treatment and took a lot of effort (over 9 years I think the article said) to get pregnant. Not many teenage girls take fertility treatment, but some are promiscuous and have unprotected sex frequently.
4. The ability of the mother to adequately take care of the child:
This woman appeared to have resources. So the physical needs of the child
are likely to be met. She seemed to want a child enough to provide emotional support. I don't know what her extended family structure is like, but that could also be a resource pool for caring for the child. With teenage mothers, they typically don't have any resources of their own to take care of their offspring (they themselves are dependents). They aren't usually mature enough to handle parenting. Some get support from parents etc. but many don't.
What really is the bone of contention with that woman giving birth? Is she really selfish for wanting what millions of women have wanted?
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I also don't think you could compare "Sarah" from Bible with that woman who was helped by mad scientist who want to be famous playing with the lifes of babies; one of the twin babies already died and the other baby girl is very light (1.4KG) and still very weak .
You should not think that god allows everything what happen on earth, and also remind yourself that Satan is also working to establish his kingdom even if we know that good will finally beat the evil .
God is only watching what we are doing and from our actions we will be judge.
Personally i'm against all this experiences on foetus and also abortion .
If you can't have baby by the natural way , just adopt one, they are millions waiting and dreaming to have parents to care for them ...
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I made reference to the biblical situation only to make the point that God sometimes allows things to happen which to us, have no logical purpose or sense to it. This does not mean their is no purpose. It just means we don't understand it. Obviously God allowed that baby to be born to that woman. He's powerful enough to have stopped it. I'm just saying that before we jump to condemn and judge, we should consider the possibility that maybe there is a purpose for that child.
Yes the devil is active, but he isn't more powerful than God, and he cannot do anything that God doesn't allow to happen - no matter how terrible it may seem. And yes, in the end, the devil does lose and God and His people are victorious. That's why I take the view that if God allowed it to happen, there must be a reason, and in the long run, He's still in control.